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#21
05-09-2007, 12:43 AM
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Re: 16- hand vs urbanmeyer1
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If he is shoving 66+ AQ here his shoving range is awful. [/ QUOTE ] That far from the button, the proper shoving range should be your basic default 10BB mid-tight calling-range pushing range. What makes 66+,AQ+ that awful? EDIT: I shove a bit tighter, but not much. I'd say {88+,AQs+,AKo}. 
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#22
05-09-2007, 12:50 AM
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Re: 16- hand vs urbanmeyer1
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My calling range is probably like 88+ AQ+ [/ QUOTE ] I don't think there's any way calling this wide is correct against a good player, you'll be dominated pretty often. Against a random it's a different story.
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#23
05-09-2007, 01:04 AM
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Re: 16- hand vs urbanmeyer1
I think he is shoving something like 88,AQ here, but you know him better than I do, gravy. It wasn't as bad as I first thought though, he isn't shoving AA, but has been known to shove KK occasionally here.
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#24
05-09-2007, 01:14 AM
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Re: 16- hand vs urbanmeyer1
he should be shoving like 66+, ATs+. maybe 55 idk. and you can probably discount AA and KK most of the time. im calling with TT+, AK, maybe more because its too likely he doesnt have AA or KK. as someone already said pushing AA or KK at a 16 probably isnt the best.
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#25
05-09-2007, 01:14 AM
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Re: 16- hand vs urbanmeyer1
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My calling range is probably like 88+ AQ+ [/ QUOTE ] disastrous.
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#26
05-09-2007, 01:16 AM
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Re: 16- hand vs urbanmeyer1
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he should be shoving like 66+, ATs+. maybe 55 idk. and you can probably discount AA and KK most of the time. im calling with TT+, AK, maybe more because its too likely he doesnt have AA or KK. as someone already said pushing AA or KK at a 16 probably isnt the best. [/ QUOTE ] How can you be shoving 55,66,77,AT here? AJ is thin as it is.
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#27
05-09-2007, 01:21 AM
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Re: 16- hand vs urbanmeyer1
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[ QUOTE ] he should be shoving like 66+, ATs+. maybe 55 idk. and you can probably discount AA and KK most of the time. im calling with TT+, AK, maybe more because its too likely he doesnt have AA or KK. as someone already said pushing AA or KK at a 16 probably isnt the best. [/ QUOTE ] How can you be shoving 55,66,77,AT here? AJ is thin as it is. [/ QUOTE ] im shoving 77 for sure. i never said im shoving AT. Folding AJ is quite bad. yea shoving 55 is my mistake. i was just saying these off the top of my head btw until checking with sngpt right now.
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#29
05-09-2007, 01:26 AM
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Re: 16- hand vs urbanmeyer1
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] he should be shoving like 66+, ATs+. maybe 55 idk. and you can probably discount AA and KK most of the time. im calling with TT+, AK, maybe more because its too likely he doesnt have AA or KK. as someone already said pushing AA or KK at a 16 probably isnt the best. [/ QUOTE ] How can you be shoving 55,66,77,AT here? AJ is thin as it is. [/ QUOTE ] im shoving 77 for sure. i never said im shoving AT. Folding AJ is quite bad. yea shoving 55 is my mistake. i was just saying these off the top of my head btw until checking with sngpt right now. [/ QUOTE ] Shoving less than 88 can't be good, defintley not A10, I don't think I like shoving AJ here but it isn't horrible or anything.
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#30
05-09-2007, 01:28 AM
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Re: 16- hand vs urbanmeyer1
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AJ is not thin AJ is insta auto presto ship it holla. [/ QUOTE ] You are taking an optimistic view of you opponents' calling ranges.
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