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#21
05-08-2007, 01:34 AM
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Re: How do Christians Still follow the bible?
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"It seems to me that God, with infinite wisdom and skill, is training the Anglo-Saxon race for an hour sure to come in the worlds future. The lands of the earth are limited, and soon will be taken. Then will the world enter upon a new stage in its history--the final competition of the races. Then this race of unequaled energy, with the majesty of numbers and the might of wealth behind it--the representative of the largest liberty, the purest Christianity, the highest civilization... will spread itself over the earth." -Minister Josiah Strong, 1885 [/ QUOTE ] Obviously a man unfamiliar with Asia. 
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#22
05-08-2007, 02:20 AM
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Re: How do Christians Still follow the bible?
Try looking at the Old Testament like this. A record of a people coming to terms with a God which they were only beginning to understand. They were trying to turn away from Hate and toward Love but their understanding of God was often tainted by the Hate that was still in them. They often projected attributes of their Hate onto that which they called God and justified acts of Hate accordingly. In their primitive attempts at righteousness they often created brutal laws. With little understanding of the natural world they routinely gave supernatural explanations for things. They made up stories to illustrate principles. They used symbolic, metaphoric, and allegorical language.
Despite all this they progressed spiritually. Look at the Old Testament as a record of spiritual experience and progress. They had spiritual insights along the way. Consider the insights in context of the times and use your own judgement as to how advanced they were. If you find wisdom in the midst of primitive noise, take the wisdom and respect the experience of the lives led. They are our ancestors and our relations in the human struggle. Have some empathy for the difficulties they lived with. Can you see Love emerging out of all that historical tumult? Can you see Love emerging out of that people who were so clearly infected with atributes of Hate? Can you see Love Fullfilled in the New Testament? If so, you have found the Bible to be the Word of God because God's Word is his essence and the essence of God is Love. PairTheBoard
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#23
05-08-2007, 06:22 AM
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Re: How do Christians Still follow the bible?
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[ QUOTE ] The flood covered the whole earth All animals were originally herbivores Men have one less rib then women (this wasn’t proved wrong until the 1500's and caused quite a fuss) Bats are birds diseases, like leprosy, are caused by the wrath of God or by Satan The value of pi is 3 Earthquakes are caused by God getting mad The slime trail of snails is them melting These are just a very small sample of scientific gems from the bible. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i have no idea where you got 1/2 of these, and the other half, its easy to just say that God causes X via how it is scientifically explained. That doesn't mean God wasn't the catalyst. [/ QUOTE ] The flood covered the whole earth - genesis 7:20 All animals were originally herbivores - genesis 1:30 Men have one less rib then women (this wasn’t proved wrong until the 1500's and caused quite a fuss) - genesis 2:19 Bats are birds - Leviticus 11:13, 19 / Deuteronomy 14:11, 18 diseases, like leprosy, are caused by the wrath of God or by Satan - Numbers 12:10 The value of pi is 3 - 2 Chronicles 4:2 Earthquakes are caused by God getting mad - Psalms 18:7 The slime trail of snails is them melting - Psalms 58:8 [/ QUOTE ] dknightx, where did you go?
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05-08-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: How do Christians Still follow the bible?
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organized religions like catholics or protestants don't follow the bible. simple as that. [/ QUOTE ] this is wrong, they dont follow it word for word, but they follow it (every single part). They still follow it though, it is constantly read out of during a catholic mass. Also why woudlnt they follow the inspired writings of the holy spirit...
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#26
05-08-2007, 05:13 PM
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Re: How do Christians Still follow the bible?
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Try looking at the Old Testament like this. A record of a people coming to terms with a God which they were only beginning to understand. They were trying to turn away from Hate and toward Love but their understanding of God was often tainted by the Hate that was still in them. They often projected attributes of their Hate onto that which they called God and justified acts of Hate accordingly. In their primitive attempts at righteousness they often created brutal laws. With little understanding of the natural world they routinely gave supernatural explanations for things. They made up stories to illustrate principles. They used symbolic, metaphoric, and allegorical language. Despite all this they progressed spiritually. Look at the Old Testament as a record of spiritual experience and progress. They had spiritual insights along the way. Consider the insights in context of the times and use your own judgement as to how advanced they were. If you find wisdom in the midst of primitive noise, take the wisdom and respect the experience of the lives led. They are our ancestors and our relations in the human struggle. Have some empathy for the difficulties they lived with. Can you see Love emerging out of all that historical tumult? Can you see Love emerging out of that people who were so clearly infected with atributes of Hate? Can you see Love Fullfilled in the New Testament? If so, you have found the Bible to be the Word of God because God's Word is his essence and the essence of God is Love. PairTheBoard [/ QUOTE ] good post
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#27
05-08-2007, 06:29 PM
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Re: How do Christians Still follow the bible?
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Quote: organized religions like catholics or protestants don't follow the bible. simple as that. this is wrong, they dont follow it word for word, but they follow it (every single part). They still follow it though, it is constantly read out of during a catholic mass. Also why woudlnt they follow the inspired writings of the holy spirit... [/ QUOTE ] of courze they dont. says right in the bible don't eat fat. it says this is a perpetual ordinance to be observed no matter where you live and for all time. and we wonder why we got heart disease and stuff.
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#28
05-08-2007, 07:09 PM
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Re: How do Christians Still follow the bible?
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[ QUOTE ] Try looking at the Old Testament like this. A record of a people coming to terms with a God which they were only beginning to understand. They were trying to turn away from Hate and toward Love but their understanding of God was often tainted by the Hate that was still in them. They often projected attributes of their Hate onto that which they called God and justified acts of Hate accordingly. In their primitive attempts at righteousness they often created brutal laws. With little understanding of the natural world they routinely gave supernatural explanations for things. They made up stories to illustrate principles. They used symbolic, metaphoric, and allegorical language. Despite all this they progressed spiritually. Look at the Old Testament as a record of spiritual experience and progress. They had spiritual insights along the way. Consider the insights in context of the times and use your own judgement as to how advanced they were. If you find wisdom in the midst of primitive noise, take the wisdom and respect the experience of the lives led. They are our ancestors and our relations in the human struggle. Have some empathy for the difficulties they lived with. Can you see Love emerging out of all that historical tumult? Can you see Love emerging out of that people who were so clearly infected with atributes of Hate? Can you see Love Fullfilled in the New Testament? If so, you have found the Bible to be the Word of God because God's Word is his essence and the essence of God is Love. PairTheBoard [/ QUOTE ] good post [/ QUOTE ] How so?
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#29
05-08-2007, 07:27 PM
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Re: How do Christians Still follow the bible?
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Quote: Quote: Try looking at the Old Testament like this. A record of a people coming to terms with a God which they were only beginning to understand. They were trying to turn away from Hate and toward Love but their understanding of God was often tainted by the Hate that was still in them. They often projected attributes of their Hate onto that which they called God and justified acts of Hate accordingly. In their primitive attempts at righteousness they often created brutal laws. With little understanding of the natural world they routinely gave supernatural explanations for things. They made up stories to illustrate principles. They used symbolic, metaphoric, and allegorical language. Despite all this they progressed spiritually. Look at the Old Testament as a record of spiritual experience and progress. They had spiritual insights along the way. Consider the insights in context of the times and use your own judgement as to how advanced they were. If you find wisdom in the midst of primitive noise, take the wisdom and respect the experience of the lives led. They are our ancestors and our relations in the human struggle. Have some empathy for the difficulties they lived with. Can you see Love emerging out of all that historical tumult? Can you see Love emerging out of that people who were so clearly infected with atributes of Hate? Can you see Love Fullfilled in the New Testament? If so, you have found the Bible to be the Word of God because God's Word is his essence and the essence of God is Love. PairTheBoard good post How so? [/ QUOTE ] love in the bible just means obeying god. So how do you show love for your neighbor, you follow commandments don't f his wife and stuff. I think a lot of people misinterpret the whole love thing.
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#30
05-08-2007, 08:13 PM
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Re: How do Christians Still follow the bible?
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love in the bible just means obeying god. So how do you show love for your neighbor, you follow commandments don't f his wife and stuff. I think a lot of people misinterpret the whole love thing. [/ QUOTE ] That kind of misses the point. God is the source of all things good and right, including love. Therefore it is impossible to truly love while not on some level obeying God. For the record: i am agnostic, so I am only presenting the argument -- I am not making it.
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