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Old 04-25-2007, 10:03 PM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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Default Re: Floped a set, Is raising the turn a bad idea with st and fl draws?

rofl....
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: Is not betting turn a bad idea?

FYP

First of all, this hand is making me want to be done with school for the year so I can start playing online again. 8 players to the flop! Haven't seen that in awhile.

Ok. On to strategic content:

Flop is great; sometimes it will be better to slowplay a flopped set from early position, but this is not one of them.

But then why the hell did you do what you did on the turn? Please bet the turn.

I'm so torn on the river, I'm not sure I can give you sound advice. My instincts tell me that you should fold because SB's play is very, very consistent with a flush draw, and there's a 4 str8 out there. But the pot is really big. One thing I can tell you, if you decide to call on this river, you are always folding if it gets raised behind you.


I didn't look at the results for the hand and I'm not going to because I don't want my decision making to be corrupted by results oriented thinking.
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: Floped a set, Is raising the turn a bad idea with st and fl draws?

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raise/cap preflop

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Is this some sort of game to you? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Floped a set, Is raising the turn a bad idea with st and fl draws?

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raise/cap preflop

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Is this some sort of game to you? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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yes... a game called poker.

we have an 8 way pot with a huge equity edge, and a black/white hand that easily plays perfectly in a bloated pot.

4 limpers and i probly check it, but 8way we have to pump this up
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: Floped a set, Is raising the turn a bad idea with st and fl draws?

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raise/cap preflop

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Is this some sort of game to you? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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yes... a game called poker.

we have an 8 way pot with a huge equity edge, and a black/white hand that easily plays perfectly in a bloated pot.

4 limpers and i probly check it, but 8way we have to pump this up

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Not sure when the last time I was raising 77 for an equity edge preflop. In an 8-handed pot, I consider 77 to be a speculative sort of hand - and I therefore wish to play it for the least amount possible.

Ohh, yeah that's a good point about it being a black/white hand. But then again, so are 66 and 55. Are you "raising/capping" PF with 55 as well?
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: Floped a set, Is raising the turn a bad idea with st and fl draws?

If you hit your set you are going to be able to pay off your TJ Maxx credit card, if you miss the flop and have no good draw it is easy to get away from. So, when you have position and 48 people seeing the flop go ahead and raise it up.
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: Floped a set, Is raising the turn a bad idea with st and fl draws?

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raise/cap preflop

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Is this some sort of game to you? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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yes... a game called poker.

we have an 8 way pot with a huge equity edge, and a black/white hand that easily plays perfectly in a bloated pot.

4 limpers and i probly check it, but 8way we have to pump this up

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Not sure when the last time I was raising 77 for an equity edge preflop. In an 8-handed pot, I consider 77 to be a speculative sort of hand - and I therefore wish to play it for the least amount possible.

Ohh, yeah that's a good point about it being a black/white hand. But then again, so are 66 and 55. Are you "raising/capping" PF with 55 as well?

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im definitely raising any PP, suited connector 78+, or AK... capping is fairly ev neutral so w/e, i probly only cap 77+
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: Floped a set, Is raising the turn a bad idea with st and fl draws?

Raise PF then goto TJ Maxx and buy yourself a new shirt with the Sklansky Bux you just made
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: Floped a set, Is raising the turn a bad idea with st and fl draws?

I don't think raising this PF changes the IO's very much, very often. You can still pay off your TJ Maxx credit card when you flop a set with 48 players in even without a raise. And in this case, hero does not have position. But I guess, meh. Either way. I was just sort of taken aback by the one liner "raise/cap PF". I don't want n00b's thinking that they are automatically get super aggressive PF w/ medium PP's.
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: Floped a set, Is raising the turn a bad idea with st and fl draws?

You have to raise this PF since you are playing with house $$$.
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