Aces with position, 200 BB deep, and significant background

[Jihad]

This is, IMO, a super interesting hand from a little while back at 50's. The villain is a multi-tabling TAG, but I don't really consider him a very good TAG at all. He calls way too much looking for big flops, and I take a lot of pots away from him, especially with position, which I currently have on him (immediate left). About 50 hands ago this hand happened to get me my stack, against the same villain:

He's got my $75 covered in the SB, I'm BB with KK and its pot-raised UTG and subsequently called in all 5 positions, I repop to $10 even, he's the only one that calls. So he just called a pf pot after 4 others and then was the only one to call my repot, from the SB. I put him pretty squarely on some sort of pair. We flop KT6, he checks, I bet $18 into $25ish, he insta-min-check-raises, I put him all in and his TT doesn't improve. I remember thinking, [censored], I woulda folded AA there. WELL....:

So that's a very important hand, as now we're about $125 deep, and I have AA in the BB. MP raises pot, villain calls, I repot to 6, MP folds, and guy calls. Flop is:

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He checks, I bet $10.50, he insta-min-check-raises to $21. I let my timer get way down and call. Turn is a rainbow 4, so now we're looking at a 2464 board. He almost instantly shoves for something like $70 into $50.

Thoughts on any/all streets please.

-Jihad

[TheRenaissance]

Sick spot.




(sorry have nothing more substantial to add at this time)

[maccamack]

Based on your description of the previous hand, I think that you think that he has you beat - so unless he is a third level thinker (which you don't seem to think he is) you should fold.

[TheRenaissance]

He thinks you have an overpair.
He has given lots of small pots to you waiting for the big one.
You stacked him with an overset the last time he hit a big one.
He took the same line now as when he last had a set.

I would go broke here against an unknown but given your description it is a fold.

[kolotoure]

I'm not sure but I think your preflop 3-bet is too small

[C4LL4W4Y]

Tough spot, the fact that you're so deep induces a fold but this guy is basically telling you that he's on a bluff.

[Jihad]

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I'm not sure but I think your preflop 3-bet is too small

[/ QUOTE ]I disagree. I hit the pot button.

[corsakh]

Logically, because you raised pre, he thinks ur on a high pair. The fact that you called his min raise indicates he is right and that you are scared. Now he shoves because

a) he thinks you can not get away from AA;
b) he thinks you can and steals the pot;
c) he is tilting and doesnt think.

It depends on how much credit you think the villain gives to you and how much credit you give to him.

So to me, unless I can say he is on some serious tilt, its like calling a river shove bluff with ace high. It looks like a bluff, it smells like a bluff, I know it is a bluff - but its just not worth calling it.

[tarheeljks]

point of clarification: in your example that is TT as in he has a set right? it's unclear b/c you seemed to be lamenting that you would have folded AA there.

assuming it is, i have a lot of trouble putting this guy on a fh here. he may very well be being very tricky, but it's more likely that he's got something like 77-TT ish.

[Jihad]

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point of clarification: in your example that is TT as in he has a set right?

[/ QUOTE ]word