$5k HU sng im lost

[futuredoc85]

pretty sure subs not considering raising (wtf?). id call and fold to a river bet. that A is too good of a bluff-card to give him credit for once you check IMO.

[HokieGreg]

let timer run down to 1 second, close eyes, push...

profit???

[yellowsub]

ok since i think this is an interesting hand, and the concensus seems to be call and re-eval river what do we do on following 4 rivers?

board is 567cAc and theres 1244 in pot

a) Js
b) As
c)2h
d)8h

[ChicagoRy]

I think you check call the ace, check raise the jack and check fold the 8. I'm not sure about the 2.

I think calling the turn would make a ton of players check behind a river, it just doesn't seem very profitable in villain's POV IMO to bluff this river with a lot of success.

It would be easier if the flop brought the f/d and the turn brought a different suited ace, though.

[cwar]

I think you should be blocking or check folding definitely not calling. I actually think calling is pretty terrible unless you have some crazy history that makes you strongly suspect he will double barrel the turn and river in addition to calling the flop light.

[Turbofly]

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ok since i think this is an interesting hand, and the concensus seems to be call and re-eval river what do we do on following 4 rivers?

board is 567cAc and theres 1244 in pot

a) Js
b) As
c)2h
d)8h

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a) Shove
b)CC
c) Check, fold to small bet, call big.
d)Same as c.

[APXG]

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ok since i think this is an interesting hand, and the concensus seems to be call and re-eval river what do we do on following 4 rivers?

board is 567cAc and theres 1244 in pot

a) Js
b) As
c)2h
d)8h

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What about all the other cards? When calling the turn, river is not going to be ABCD where you can make argument about calling A and B. It will be A or B very rarely, and blocking / check-calling 2h or 3s or Kd is gonna be profitable like never. You are basically betting that villain has a pair less than Ace and will check behind. Why would he setup a turn check-raise for you with a small pair?

Hence turn call is not +EV in a vacuum.

[nycballer]

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hey baller, I like you're push vs a 1100 stack with J9 earlier today. Although I'm sure you have an outstanding explanation for the move

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I will play you for any amount of money any stakes ALL DAY LONG. and i have no clue what hand ur talkin about but sounds like prolly a guy made it 90 or 150 or somethin i just shoved

[nycballer]

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There is a ton of nonmonsters in villains range, some of which we even beat / crush

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there are none and he is never bluffing here

[nycballer]

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ok since i think this is an interesting hand, and the concensus seems to be call and re-eval river what do we do on following 4 rivers?

board is 567cAc and theres 1244 in pot

a) Js
b) As
c)2h
d)8h

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i vote for open fold river cause if u call any bet on any river, besides a), u just bleed more money