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Old 04-17-2007, 04:18 AM
jfish jfish is offline
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i like all streets and c/c river.

i'd probably bet a little more on the flop though.

c/r flop is an option too, of course, but often enough the raiser won't c-bet into both of you light on a flop like that.

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Old 04-16-2007, 10:36 PM
king_of_drafts king_of_drafts is offline
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I play this the same almost always and I am calling. So cheaaaaaaaap
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Old 04-16-2007, 08:07 PM
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ok kratzer sees right through me, i was actually the villain in this hand because the hero of the hand was too lazy to post it but i thought jacks had an interesting decision on every street.

i personally hate a river call and am surprised you guys like it. i dont know what you think bb (me) is calling full pot on the turn with the CO still left to act with.

i would have rr preflop prob but not all the time, and if i led flop it would be for more and then less on the turn. i dont think this turn bet allows anyone to really show up with anything worse very often, in all honesty.

anyway i think kratzer is right and the river should be a check/fold. maybe because it was small you can hope it is busted draw, but WHAT? 89 even gets there.

so yeah i was bb and i made a value bet with 33 which i rarely rarely do... i usually bet like 3/4 on bluffs and value bets alike. but i thought this was a clear check fold and that the only way hero would look me up is if i bet a fishy small amount. im still not convinced hero should call because no one has assessed a range. saying "missed draws" isn't good enough if you can't put me on a decent range of missed draws that calls the turn bet.
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