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07-05-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: 2008 Presidential Election thread part II - fundraising
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John McCain's poor fundraising has forced him to fire most of his staff and his top level people are now working for free. This could very well be the end of McCain's presidential ambitions - I mostly feel bad for my old friends and co-workers who moved to New Hampshire to be on his staff and are now out of a job. Link to article [/ QUOTE ] It is always too bad for those that get involved and are hit directly by the unforseen events that leave them unemployed--of course that's the nature of the political beast. [ QUOTE ] I think McCain will punch out within the next month or two. Romney is also not going to be able to raise enough cash to stay in long-term. Republican nomination will come down to Guiliani vs. Fred Thompson, which is pretty awful. Do people really think John Edwards will be able to hang around? Looks like Hillary/Obama to me, and then it will be a pretty tight race. Bloomberg WILL run, and can make some noise. He'll piss away at least a billion on this. [/ QUOTE ] McCain is obviously in some trouble, but he may stick it out and try to have a big impact (and win) New Hampshire to try and jumpstart things if it still isn't all that great in 6 months. Why do you say Romney won't be able to raise enough cash? He's led the R's so far the first two quarters. Agree that Edwards is fading--basic campaign errors are really hurting him. 
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#22
07-05-2007, 04:44 PM
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Re: 2008 Presidential Election thread part II - fundraising
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Don't you guys think that US politics needs a limit on the amount of money that can be raised and spent campaigning? [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely. In fact, I think it's one of the most serious problem in American politics. I can think of some solutions, but none of them are perfect. [/ QUOTE ] In canqda most if not all campaign money is supplied by the government. The amount you get depends on the number of votes you received in the previous election, which also means there are no wasted votes. [/ QUOTE ] While it's true the gov't funds official parties, I don't think most of campaign funding comes from that source. Wasn't that the issue behind the fiasco in Quebec. There were lots of huge donor kickbacks to the liberal party - I'm pretty sure they were a significant amount of funding for campaigns. I could be wrong though.
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#23
07-05-2007, 04:48 PM
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Re: 2008 Presidential Election thread part II - fundraising
This election cycle is really fun because there could potentially be a woman (Hillary), a black (Obama), an Italian (Guiliani), a Mormon (Romney), a multi-billionaire Jew (Bloomberg), and a recognizable actor (Thompson).
I'd like to see somebody like Optimus Prime join the race to complete the chaos.
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#26
07-05-2007, 05:20 PM
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The "...walk into a bar" joke possibilities are endless. [/ QUOTE ] Optimus Prime and a police officer walk into a bar. Optimus Prime orders a bottle of vodka and chugs it down. Police officer says "You're under arrest".
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#27
07-05-2007, 05:22 PM
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Re: 2008 Presidential Election thread part II - fundraising
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Romney is also not going to be able to raise enough cash to stay in long-term. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't Mitt's personal worth somewhere between $150MM and $250MM? I'd think that's enough to get through the primaries; and if he wins the R side, fundraising won't be much of an issue any more. He'll still have to do it, of course, but there is about 35% of the population who will never ever vote for Hillary or Obama, and they'll give money to Romney as easily as they will to any of the other potential Republican nominees.
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#28
07-05-2007, 05:31 PM
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Re: 2008 Presidential Election thread part II - fundraising
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[ QUOTE ] Romney is also not going to be able to raise enough cash to stay in long-term. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't Mitt's personal worth somewhere between $150MM and $250MM? I'd think that's enough to get through the primaries; and if he wins the R side, fundraising won't be much of an issue any more. He'll still have to do it, of course, but there is about 35% of the population who will never ever vote for Hillary or Obama, and they'll give money to Romney as easily as they will to any of the other potential Republican nominees. [/ QUOTE ] Is Romney prepared to spend that kind of dough to get through primary season? I don't think so. Also, who is going to vote for a dude named after a piece of baseball equipment?
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#29
07-05-2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: 2008 Presidential Election thread part II - fundraising
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I think McCain will punch out within the next month or two. Romney is also not going to be able to raise enough cash to stay in long-term. Republican nomination will come down to Guiliani vs. Fred Thompson, which is pretty awful. Do people really think John Edwards will be able to hang around? Looks like Hillary/Obama to me, and then it will be a pretty tight race. Bloomberg WILL run, and can make some noise. He'll piss away at least a billion on this. [/ QUOTE ] Romney is worth over 100 million...he is in it till the end esp given he is the front runner in the 1st two primaries in Iowa and NH. it will end up being Hillary vs. Fred Thompson because both political parties are sad and pathetic. I hope Bloomberg runs if it does end up being those two cuz I'll vote for him in a second
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#30
07-05-2007, 07:03 PM
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Re: 2008 Presidential Election thread part II - fundraising
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[ QUOTE ] I think McCain will punch out within the next month or two. Romney is also not going to be able to raise enough cash to stay in long-term. Republican nomination will come down to Guiliani vs. Fred Thompson, which is pretty awful. Do people really think John Edwards will be able to hang around? Looks like Hillary/Obama to me, and then it will be a pretty tight race. Bloomberg WILL run, and can make some noise. He'll piss away at least a billion on this. [/ QUOTE ] But he told Ann Curry he was not running. Who would lie to Ann Curry? I can't see Bloomberg making noise until the general. As Romney and McCain fade, this looks like it is Fred Thompson's to lose. The Democrats are scared of him. I'm already hearing lines like, "Former Washington Lobbyist and Ultimate Insider" Fred Thompson. Guiliani has no chance in a primary against a "true conservative" like Thompson. Really though your hearing the scary words like "electability." And his senate record is really poor and he gained the reputation as a "do nothing" legeslator. The longer Obama stays around the more trouble Hillary has. She will have more money than him or Edwards, but when your looking at the three of them, she looks the worst. If Obama can be accepted, he is the best candidate for the "it" factor that the whole country looks for. He can mesmerize like no other candidate. He is the closest mold to Clinton and Reagan. It's just will he be able to keep up with the Hillary Clinton money tree orchard. [/ QUOTE ] Fred Thompson is essentially GWB with less expierence and better speaking skills.
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