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Old 04-03-2007, 11:58 AM
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pf i'd rr like 85/15 5-handed. After calling pf, I like c/cing flop, c/cing a lot of paint turns, and leading a lot of other turns, definitely this one. As played, easy call on river.

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I did call the river, but what range do you think he shoves the river with? I'd be really surprised if anybody guesses his hand.

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98ss semi-bluff OESFD ftw
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:07 PM
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pf is reraise for value against CO opening range

as played, river is easy call
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:11 PM
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pf is reraise for value against CO opening range

as played, river is easy call

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What do you think his calling range is if I did reraise pf? Better question, against you, with no real history, 100bb, what is your calling range?
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:27 PM
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pf is reraise for value against CO opening range

as played, river is easy call

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What do you think his calling range is if I did reraise pf? Better question, against you, with no real history, 100bb, what is your calling range?

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AK-AQ
pocket pairs if i have pos
4bet AK,AA,KK sometimes
88+ if OOP (this is villain dep)

that being said, it is still a raise for value. you'll find that most of your opponents calling range is pretty wide here. your giving your avg unknown waaaay too much credit.
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:03 PM
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pf is reraise for value against CO opening range

as played, river is easy call

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What do you think his calling range is if I did reraise pf? Better question, against you, with no real history, 100bb, what is your calling range?

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AK-AQ
pocket pairs if i have pos
4bet AK,AA,KK sometimes
88+ if OOP (this is villain dep)

that being said, it is still a raise for value. you'll find that most of your opponents calling range is pretty wide here. your giving your avg unknown waaaay too much credit.

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I wasn't trying to argue that you couldn't raise TT For value. I do think reraising is perfectly fine. We just need to recognize that the hand barely goes to showdown with us ahead and we often times will miss the opportunity to make a set because the villain folds fairly often.
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:13 PM
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I'd call the river because I have half my stack in there and I'm getting great odds with a strong hand, but I'd expect to be shown a flush a lot of the time. I just don't see people shove over a strong bet on 3 flush boards without the flush very often. Ac7c mabye?
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:21 PM
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My guess would be 77...And I would laugh and laugh...
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:37 PM
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Folding river is criminal.
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:47 PM
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:50 PM
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He had T7s. I was sure I was paying off a flush though.
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