Why NL is killing limit. - Page 3

malo · #21 04-01-2007, 09:39 AM

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...I found it interesting because it was different but also found it boring, boring, boring and, worse, slow. I think it's main attraction is that it's supposedly cool since it's the game on the TeeVee. In a good limit game there is constant action, constant decision making and you don't have to sit quietly during one of those ludicrous stare-downs over a $100 pot that make me want to scream in frustration. Where is the enjoyment in watching some player who knew he was folding in 3 seconds take 2 minutes while he shuffles his chips back and forth just so that he is thinking he will make his opponent respect him? Also, how many 6 way NL hands are there with the chips flying into the pot. Give me a loose limit game any day.

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Thank you Howard. Thought I was truly the only player in the world who felt this way.

I am strictly an online player right now (hope to add regular live play when I can relocate in a couple years) and it is frustrating to log into a site and see about 3x as many NL games as limit. Sometimes I give NL a try. Within 10 minutes I am muttering "it's poker, not brain surgery. For the love of gawd, stop noodling with that slider, key in a number and hit bet, dammit!" (Keep in mind I am playing a .02/.05 or .05/.10 game.) And as a newbie to NL, multi-tabling or 6 max NL is not a good solution for my boredom problem. I try to occupy myself watching the game and taking notes, but still.....

Howard Beale · #22 04-01-2007, 10:36 AM

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Omaha 8 is the new NLH.

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2-7TD is the new O/8, which was the new NLH.

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Badugi is the new 2-7 which was the new Omaha 8 which was the new NL.

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Limit Hold'em is the new Badugi which was the new 2-7 which was the new Omaha 8 which was the new NLH.

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Mexican Poker is the new LHE which was the new Badugi which was the new 2-7 which was the new Omaha 8 which was the new NLH.

slickss · #23 04-01-2007, 12:48 PM

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In a good limit game there is constant action, constant decision making and you don't have to sit quietly during one of those ludicrous stare-downs over a $100 pot that make me want to scream in frustration. Where is the enjoyment in watching some player who knew he was folding in 3 seconds take 2 minutes while he shuffles his chips back and forth just so that he is thinking he will make his opponent respect him? Also, how many 6 way NL hands are there with the chips flying into the pot.

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You might call me crazy, but big pots with tough decisions are the main reason why I love NLHE. Yes, some players take too long on some decisions - but I'm sure that happens in LHE also (I've never played it live).

I argue that the 500BB pots are interesting to watch and extremely interesting to play. The feeling of sitting with the absolute nuts when you hear someone going all-in. The feeling of losing your stack because you "had a feeling" and bluffed all-in. The feeling of having a mediocre hand and correctly calling a huge river bet.

That's what I call poker.

Frond · #24 04-01-2007, 01:04 PM

Right now I mostly play LHE but I also like playing NLHE as well. Both games are great in their own right and require different skills & thinking as has often been posted here on the forums. Personally, I don't see either dying out at all.

MontyBurns · #25 04-01-2007, 01:18 PM

Monkeys love no limit. End of story really. Not all NL players are monkeys, but the scratch ticket buying, i play T3s and take 10 mintues to fold it kind of folks love it. I can only hope that history does repeat itself and they go broke and limit comes back at least somewhat. I'd rather sit at a 3-6 mixed game than watch the monkey's move their chips around for hours then give them all to one of the good players who then gets up and leaves or better yet gets up and walks around, plays 5 hands and hour and THEN leaves.

andyfox · #26 04-01-2007, 01:37 PM

"Yes, some players take too long on some decisions - but I'm sure that happens in LHE also (I've never played it live)."

Very rare, and when it does, it's usually a NL player doing it.

Bremen · #27 04-01-2007, 02:58 PM

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Omaha 8 is the new NLH.

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2-7TD is the new O/8, which was the new NLH.

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Badugi is the new 2-7 which was the new Omaha 8 which was the new NL.

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Limit Hold'em is the new Badugi which was the new 2-7 which was the new Omaha 8 which was the new NLH.

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Mexican Poker is the new LHE which was the new Badugi which was the new 2-7 which was the new Omaha 8 which was the new NLH.

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NLH is the new Mexican Poker which was the new LHE which was the new Badugi which was the new 2-7 which was the new Omaha 8 which was the new NLH.

KLJ · #28 04-01-2007, 03:08 PM

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1.ARRRR-IN is a good donkey bailout default that works sometimes (and is fun too).

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FYP.

jjshabado · #29 04-01-2007, 03:11 PM

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-You're about three years late to make one of these Chicken Little, "NL is taking over!" posts.

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I think this sums it up nicely. Limits seems pretty healthy and alive in most casinos today, just look around. Sure its a bit older and nittier crowd, but theres still lots of young people playing.

ill rich · #30 04-01-2007, 03:18 PM

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2.It's more skillful (if you don't know this, you don't understand where the skill in poker comes from). The fun of poker comes from its skill element, and even people who don't have much skill are choosing poker over slots for a reason.

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untrue.

limit takes more skill & there is more luck involved. these two statements don't contradict one another.