and a KK fold vs Skier

[KRANTZ]

for sure, but i changed my mind when i saw the flop texture and then when he led turn... something felt off

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I like raising the turn allin. thoughts guys?

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wtf no, I can only see this being profitable if he has exactly AQ. I like krantz's line fine and you are beat 90% on the river vs. skier.

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I agree, he's beat 95% of the time on the river here, 3bet pre and avoid this spot.

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there is no value in 3-betting pre to avoid a difficult situation. imo, not 3-betting pre was the best line against this villain given the history between us and the table pace.

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I don't see not 3betting KK being profitable against skier... the only time I'd consider not 3betting AA/KK is vs opponents that will overvalue TPTK/TPWK on more than 1 street... skier won't do this, and so much has u beat. But I guess as played I toss river.

-ob

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But then again I do stuff like that to make my decisions much easier to make... maybe it is profitable... I'm just too straight forward I guess.

-ob

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w/ yer image, i cannot imagine how anything other than rr pre is the best line

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w/ yer image, i cannot imagine how anything other than rr pre is the best line

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and considering your notorious Bottom Pair call downs...

-ob

[KRANTZ]

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w/ yer image, i cannot imagine how anything other than rr pre is the best line

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to sum up my thoughts- i think he'd mainly fold or play for set value if i rr preflop unlesss he has JJ-AK/AA

but i think if he has something like KJ on a J high flop or TT on a 6 high flop he would stack off to me postflop

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w/ yer image, i cannot imagine how anything other than rr pre is the best line

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and considering your notorious Bottom Pair call downs...

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thats part of why i folded river

[Allinlife]

how do you normally play draws?

what range do you think he puts you on after turn call?

I think your hand is very under represented so river is snapcall for me

[KRANTZ]

well my hand is obviously really underrepped. but this villain wasn't pushing AQ, IMO, so i just have a bluff catcher when all is said and done

[jfish]

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