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Old 03-10-2007, 10:16 PM
Joe Tex Joe Tex is offline
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Default Re: Fancy Play Syndrome 10/20 hand

I really don't think moneymaker folds enough here to make this profitable
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Old 03-10-2007, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: Fancy Play Syndrome 10/20 hand

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I really don't think moneymaker folds enough here to make this profitable

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i actually think he folds a ton here, and by reducing the bet size from 800 to about 650 or so, he can do it a lot more often and doesnt have to get moneymaker to fold nearly as much. i think its a great play used sparingly of course.
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Old 03-11-2007, 06:26 AM
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Default Re: Fancy Play Syndrome 10/20 hand

just fold the flop bruiza
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Old 03-11-2007, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Fancy Play Syndrome 10/20 hand

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plus i think my equity is pretty dcent vs the small stack. he almos tnever has a set or two pair. he could have like QJ, 9J, any flush draw. his most likely hand is probably top pair but against that if money folds i am getting 3:1

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--which would make it a slight losing play. So if Money folds less than 100%, and we assume he can nearly always beat AK when he calls, it's probably a big losing play.
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Old 03-11-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Fancy Play Syndrome 10/20 hand

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plus i think my equity is pretty dcent vs the small stack. he almos tnever has a set or two pair. he could have like QJ, 9J, any flush draw. his most likely hand is probably top pair but against that if money folds i am getting 3:1

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right but he an easily have you crushed with pair + A,K kicker a lot.
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: Fancy Play Syndrome 10/20 hand

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plus i think my equity is pretty dcent vs the small stack. he almos tnever has a set or two pair. he could have like QJ, 9J, any flush draw. his most likely hand is probably top pair but against that if money folds i am getting 3:1

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--which would make it a slight losing play. So if Money folds less than 100%, and we assume he can nearly always beat AK when he calls, it's probably a big losing play.

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so because monkey maker folds less that 100% of the time and he can beat AK, its a "losing play"? 100% not true. and try useing words like -EV in the long run and not losing play. obv u have no clue what moneys range is here and the bruser is leaning twords a drawing hand, so why repop? also i think the raise to 800 is good, 600 might not get the fold that i think u want
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: Fancy Play Syndrome 10/20 hand

fold flop.
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: Fancy Play Syndrome 10/20 hand

you guys are so lazy. responses from people that play 2/4 nl "fold the flop" are not helpful. i know it's hard for people with such limited brain capacity, but try to remember to not do it again.

http://twodimes.net/poker/?g=h&b=td+...%0Atc+js%0D%0A

and pot odds are 3:1 so this is even money. if he has 9j i am 52% favorite, if he has 56 flush draw i am 42% to win the pot. 52% equity is a profit of $230. so let's say shorty mcLoser has semibluff half the time and a hand half the time, i win $125. say I actually raised to $600, so money needs to fold 80% of the time or so for it to be a profitable play (assuming i have no equity if he calls). in the hand money pushed all in with A5 flush draw
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Old 03-12-2007, 04:56 AM
Heir_Aparent Heir_Aparent is offline
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Default Re: Fancy Play Syndrome 10/20 hand

edit: oops

what did SS have
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Old 03-12-2007, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: Fancy Play Syndrome 10/20 hand

god 2p2 is full of meatheadz
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