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#21
02-12-2006, 05:44 AM
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Re: river play?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You mean the blind structure, of course... [/ QUOTE ] No, I meant rake structure. [/ QUOTE ] This is something I haven't seen in any book. Has Sklansky written anything on it? [/ QUOTE ] Ugh, I'm really fighting back smartass answers right now. To be honest, I can't remember him specifically writing anything about it, but I'm like 100% sure that he has. Edit: However, let's hear more about this blind structure thing that you were going to talk about. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I think maybe 6-8 months ago shill or entity open-limped on the button with axo at the BBJ tables, to give you an idea of how rake structure may affect your decisions. --Dave. 
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#22
02-12-2006, 06:15 AM
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Re: river play?
The amount of SB affects some of what you'd play preflop - at 3/6, for example, the SB can be $1 or $2, and at FT, $1.50, so the odds become different for borderline hands.
But personally, I don't see blinds or rake affecting what should have been a button raise. Edit: Don't fight the smartass answers. They'll only win in the end.
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#23
02-12-2006, 06:19 AM
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Re: river play?
i have no idea what this thread is about, but just reading the last few responses..
clearly blinds and the rake structure determine what is a good steal. the smaller the small blind is, the less there is in the pot for you to win if they fold preflop. so in 3/6 at party. there is $4 in the pot. you have to raise to $6 to win $4. at absolute you raise to $6 and win $5. then the rake. the more you have to pay in rake, the less you should play. when you win a hand, you have to pay more. thus if a spot is very marginal at a site with good rake, you would likely not play in the same spot at a site with worse rake.
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#26
02-12-2006, 07:51 PM
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Re: river play?
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[ QUOTE ] clearly blinds and the rake structure determine what is a good steal. [/ QUOTE ] Who rakes hands with no flop? [/ QUOTE ] ... since you will actually have to show some hands down, the rake will matter. so unless you expect to win w/o showdown an incredible amount of the time, the rake will eat away at the profitability of very marginal hands.
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#27
02-12-2006, 07:56 PM
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Re: river play?
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then the rake. the more you have to pay in rake, the less you should play. when you win a hand, you have to pay more. thus if a spot is very marginal at a site with good rake, you would likely not play in the same spot at a site with worse rake. [/ QUOTE ] I think this is a much bigger consideration when playing live, and if you're playing 3/6 and they drop $3 on every flop or someting gay like that. But I'm sure it could matter online depending on how they do the rake.
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#28
02-13-2006, 04:31 PM
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Re: river play?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] clearly blinds and the rake structure determine what is a good steal. [/ QUOTE ] Who rakes hands with no flop? [/ QUOTE ] No one that I know of... why do you ask? [/ QUOTE ] K... I'd like to point this out as an example of me being a prick on these boards lately. I could have answered it like Miles did, but I didn't, and it served no purpose to answer it the way I did. Sorry about that.
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#29
02-13-2006, 06:03 PM
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Re: river play?
Ah, ok, I'll explain a bit.
I'm folding because: 1) Him having a J is reasonable, and when he has it, he's not checkraising the river, he's donking it. 2) You have to beat the bettor + all the callers. This combination of having to beat 2-3 hands makes it a fold. Someone could have 87?!
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#30
02-13-2006, 06:09 PM
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Re: river play?
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1) Him having a J is reasonable, and when he has it, he's not checkraising the river, he's donking it. 2) You have to beat the bettor + all the callers. This combination of having to beat 2-3 hands makes it a fold. Someone could have 87?! [/ QUOTE ] ok, this all makes perfect sense, and I understand that I should have been more attuned to SB's donk. up til the river J though, was there a better line I could/should have taken? should I have check/called the turn instead?
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