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Old 03-01-2007, 02:13 PM
Frond Frond is offline
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Default Re: How do you handle an All-in all the time guy

Cash out, rebuy short and play small stack against him if your'e worried about putting your big stack in against him. Just a thoery.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: How do you handle an All-in all the time guy

Well I had a similar situation some time ago, when I was playing a looses passive 2/2 NL table... I bought in for 70 euro and had about 115 by the time a maniac entered the table... he was raising pre-flop to 20euro every time... I had AQ flopped TPTK he raised 40 as usual and I went all-in... he had Q8 and I doubled up... I was thinking to leave but I thought that I'll get even more from this wild player. Well what happened is that he continued raising, rerising and going all-in... I only played the best hands... With AK I did not wanna put my 230 on a 60-40 draw thats why I only called... hoping to catch an A or K... However I never got one... he always raised the size of the pot 40euro and I knew on the turn I might have tto call more... this way paying 20 and always missing the flop I lost all my profit for the evening... at one satge I had QQ and he bet 30 this time I did not wanna scare him so I called knowing the 40 bet will comeon the flop... however the flop was A 8 4... he bet 100 euro I knew its either all-in or nothing... but knowing he would play any Ax and he raised to 30 instead of the usual 20 and the flop bet was 100 made me think "Do I wanna lose close to 200 euro (at that moment) just to see he has an Ace?" I felt like I am manipulated into making a loose call so I decided to fold... he opened and showed a 56 offsuit... well I left without any profit but atleast not losing... he had stacked so many people that he had 1000 euro at the moment I left (and the max buy in is 200) he was a good player who knew exactly how to break weak tight players. This happened when I still played in a B&M casino for limits that my bankroll could not handel. This is why I moved to small stakes and gained experience. luckyly I quit playing while I was 600 ahead... I think now I know how to handel a player like that.. already then I was thinking to push all-in even though 200 euro was alot for me to lose on one hand I was sitting on his direct left so I was really scared someone fro m the other 8 players could have picked up a monster and then I would be putting mư money in alot of jepardy...
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: How do you handle an All-in all the time guy

Move to a different table, or camp it out for the nuts. . . or tell him if he goes all in again you will have his family kidnapped.
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Old 03-01-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: How do you handle an All-in all the time guy

So am I correct in concluding that the general consensus here is to either leave the table or wait for the nuts either preflop or on the flop, and let him get away with his crazy risks every other time I don't? For example, in the future I would be willing to get em all in with QQ-AA preflop with him. On the flop, with a set, straight, flush, or top 2 pair. Other than that forget about just top pair or bottom 2 pair. Does this sound like a sound strategy?
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: How do you handle an All-in all the time guy

It really depends on how often he is pushing. If he really is pushing all-in half of the time, you can deduce then he is probably pushing every pair and every draw that he gets. Assuming nobody else is in the hand, I'd call w/ TPTK.

If he's pushing a lot preflop, you are going to catch him with low cards in his hand sometimes. Any high-card / rag combo is going to be a big dog to a med-high pair. I would come down to 10s and maybe even 8s. At this point you are still beating half of the possible pairs and you are a slight favorite over all other hands.

You have to look at his hands when he is called down to see what kind of hands he is playing, but if you're seeing ragged hands, I think you can loosen up your requirements

The only thing you have to balance this against is how sensitive you are to swings in your bankroll. Remember, I'm the guy who called the all-in and the TAG caller w/ 99 strictly for value (but I also won).
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: How do you handle an All-in all the time guy

Well lets say you pay 20 to see the flop and have another 100 to go... if you flop TPTK against a habitual bluffer like that, he bets the pot, then you gotta go all-in... if you wait for a set or top two pair you will end up losing more when paying the high pre-flop raises... lets say you wait to hit a set... it hits about 1 in 8... so 7 times you miss, you lose 7X20=140 once you hit and assuming he calls your all-in you will get only 120 from him... In NL stack sizes are important... to be able to play a maniac and don't wanna risk much money buy in short... you need to understand that folding too much is just as expensive as calling too much... folding the best hand when the pot is big is a BIG MISTAKE! no doubt that with players like this you gotta gamble, but once you learn how to crush bullies its very profitable... I like much more the fixed limit bully than the no limit bully but both are beatable... Building big pots pre-flop then bluffing and semibluffing is a strategy to crush weak tight players... I realized this as a complete beginner... in sklanskys No-limit holdem book he explaines this strategy on pages 191-199... in super system there was a section "how to send bullies crying to their mothers"
This is just my oppinion... hope it helps
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: How do you handle an All-in all the time guy

Like others have said many of these guys are action junkies and their play tends to push people off their game. Don't let him push you off his. One tactic I have used to help push them off their game is to slow the game down when I'm in it with them. Many times they are firing away very quick and and not only want action but quick action. Buy slowing it down many times you can push them on tilt even more.

Or look at other ways to "tilt" them.

I was playing in a Tourney in seat #1 and the guy in #6 is a volitile Aggresive Manic. He's steaming from losing a suck out to player in #5. He is second to act bets 20X BB I reraise that would put him all in I have 4X his stack. He has JJ I have TT I flop a set he explodes. I tell him he could of folded to my raise. Crazy says "You could have" then I say that He's a Mainiac and everytime I have good hand I going to bring right too him so get use to it. That did it, he went over the edge rebought in for the 8th time. 3 hands later he goes All in with a flush draw on the board after I checked too him, put him out for good with a made K high flush. You could see the steam coming out of his head as he stormed off.
Keep your cool and play tight and smart and you can cream him if YOU GET SOME HANDS!
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