AC and corporate espionage

[Girchuck]

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I was just trying to explore, if professional assassins and counterintelligence agents specializing in torture will still be in demand. Apparently, their job security will not suffer when the switch to AC is made.

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If spying is too dangerous, why would these people be needed?

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To make sure that spying actually is dangerous

[Skidoo]

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explain why the bloods and crips aren't using their superior violence-based business model and outcompeting coke and pepsi in the soda market.

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Coke and Pepsi have the superior violence of the government on their side. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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And that's a good thing.

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And who's getting taxed for it? Coke, Pepsi and other corporations or "the people"? Anyway, I wasn't agreeing with you, I was simply pointing out an obvious flaw in Pvn's post.

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Who pays for government force? The beneficiaries of the rule of law such force maintains are the ones who pay, of course. Namely the People, who hired the government servants in the first place.

[pvn]

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The incentive to simply bump off the competition would be similar to a street gang's, because both are doing business outside the rule of law. A street gang acts as if it is above or beyond the law, and a corporation in ACland would have similar reasons for doing likewise, depending on available resources to defend against retaliation.

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Street gangs are excluded from peaceful arbitration, which is orders of magnitude less expensive than violence.

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Excluded? What means of peaceful arbitration would happen in ACland that street gangs can't also arrange?

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Otherwise, explain why the bloods and crips aren't using their superior violence-based business model and outcompeting coke and pepsi in the soda market.

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Because there is a rule of law being maintained by the state.

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But those same gangs are already dominating the markets for drugs. If the "rule of law" was actually being maintained, those gangs would have long since now been swept away. So since we see that the state is powerless to eliminate these gangs, why aren't they moving into the larger markets and trouncing the law-abiding firms with their inefficient voluntary business models?

[Skidoo]

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The incentive to simply bump off the competition would be similar to a street gang's, because both are doing business outside the rule of law. A street gang acts as if it is above or beyond the law, and a corporation in ACland would have similar reasons for doing likewise, depending on available resources to defend against retaliation.

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Street gangs are excluded from peaceful arbitration, which is orders of magnitude less expensive than violence.

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Excluded? What means of peaceful arbitration would happen in ACland that street gangs can't also arrange?

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Otherwise, explain why the bloods and crips aren't using their superior violence-based business model and outcompeting coke and pepsi in the soda market.

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Because there is a rule of law being maintained by the state.

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But those same gangs are already dominating the markets for drugs. If the "rule of law" was actually being maintained, those gangs would have long since now been swept away.

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Logic problem. Just because the rule of law is not maintained in some areas does not mean it is not maintained in any area. The rule of law does, in fact, obtain over most, though not necessarily all, of society.

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So since we see that the state is powerless to eliminate these gangs,

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We see nothing of the kind. That's your inference.

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why aren't they moving into the larger markets and trouncing the law-abiding firms with their inefficient voluntary business models?

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Again, the rule of law as maintained by the People's hired servant government. I never said the job done was always and everywhere successful and complete.

[pvn]

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The incentive to simply bump off the competition would be similar to a street gang's, because both are doing business outside the rule of law. A street gang acts as if it is above or beyond the law, and a corporation in ACland would have similar reasons for doing likewise, depending on available resources to defend against retaliation.

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Street gangs are excluded from peaceful arbitration, which is orders of magnitude less expensive than violence.

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Excluded? What means of peaceful arbitration would happen in ACland that street gangs can't also arrange?

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Otherwise, explain why the bloods and crips aren't using their superior violence-based business model and outcompeting coke and pepsi in the soda market.

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Because there is a rule of law being maintained by the state.

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But those same gangs are already dominating the markets for drugs. If the "rule of law" was actually being maintained, those gangs would have long since now been swept away.

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Logic problem. Just because the rule of law is not maintained in some areas does not mean it is not maintained in any area. The rule of law does, in fact, obtain over most, though not necessarily all, of society.

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So since we see that the state is powerless to eliminate these gangs,

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We see nothing of the kind. That's your inference.

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why aren't they moving into the larger markets and trouncing the law-abiding firms with their inefficient voluntary business models?

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Again, the rule of law as maintained by the People's hired servant government. I never said the job done was always and everywhere successful and complete.

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Uh huh. So the state *could* eliminate gangs if it only *wanted* to. OK. So what's all this "war on drugs" stuff?

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Uh huh. So the state *could* eliminate gangs if it only *wanted* to. OK. So what's all this "war on drugs" stuff?

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Do you believe everything people tell you?

[pvn]

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Uh huh. So the state *could* eliminate gangs if it only *wanted* to. OK. So what's all this "war on drugs" stuff?

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Do you believe everything people tell you?

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I certainly don't believe what *you* are telling me.

[Skidoo]

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Uh huh. So the state *could* eliminate gangs if it only *wanted* to. OK. So what's all this "war on drugs" stuff?

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Do you believe everything people tell you?

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I certainly don't believe what *you* are telling me.

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As you should know, I'm not presenting anything on a "belief" basis here.

Ketchup.

[ShakeZula06]

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I was just trying to explore, if professional assassins and counterintelligence agents specializing in torture will still be in demand. Apparently, their job security will not suffer when the switch to AC is made.

At least all the ultra expensive high tech weaponry with high destructive power probably will not be required anymore, which will be great. If corporations would like to wage real wars, they'll stick to cheap relatively non-destructive 19th century technology, and sell the TV rights to enterntainment conglomerates. The global viewers will pay for the costs. Can you imagine the raitings.

But they'll probably just stick to sniping at each other's talents which are too loyal to switch sides.

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Apparently tit for tat won't exist in AC land, for what reason I don't know.

[ShakeZula06]

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Just trying to identify targets of assasinations, which will be economically viable and market-driven after AC transformation occurs,

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If you weren't regged in '03 I'd swear this is a gimmick account...

What's increasing the demand for all these assassins again?