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Old 02-18-2007, 06:13 PM
CieloAzor CieloAzor is offline
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Default Re: KK on dry flop

Villain would have to be a complete monkey to call the UTG raise from UTG+1 with A9. TT-QQ are the main hands we're beating with the outside shot that this bozo wants to make sure his 88 isn't good.

I think it's a tough decision, but when your UTG raise is called in 3 places and somebody raises you on a dry flop, it's hard not to give the guy credit for a set. I probably grumble and fold, unless villain is an obvious fish.
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Old 02-18-2007, 06:41 PM
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u can call and stack off the turn or 3-bet flop since people are dumb dont matter too much

dont fold

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hahaha. fold.
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Old 02-18-2007, 06:50 PM
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This is a joke right? It's an obvious fold here guys. Villian cold calls, then he raises your c-bet with TWOOOOOO GUYS BEHIND HIM, you think he's doing that with A9?!

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People seem to like felting stupid hands, and I like to let them.
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:05 PM
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This is a joke right? It's an obvious fold here guys. Villian cold calls, then he raises your c-bet with TWOOOOOO GUYS BEHIND HIM, you think he's doing that with A9?!

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People seem to like felting stupid hands, and I like to let them.

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Correct but not with 2 people left to act behind.
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:06 PM
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Are these replies for real? Jesus christ, the advice is horrible.

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This is brilliant, especially since a call, push, and fold have all been advocated.
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:10 PM
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Yeah yeah, I wasn't saying shove is worse than call, I was talking about the reasoning. Doesn't really matter though I fold.
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:20 PM
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This is a joke right? It's an obvious fold here guys. Villian cold calls, then he raises your c-bet with TWOOOOOO GUYS BEHIND HIM, you think he's doing that with A9?!

Barrin6
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The problem is villian is an unknown and most unknowns are donkeys. Saying that, I don't think you lose much - if anything - by folding.

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Other than the $320 you're right, there's not much to lose by folding.

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Old 02-18-2007, 07:35 PM
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Fold here seems forced, but I wonder how to play it without the two players behind ...
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:58 PM
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I think he has QQ-TT/88 here at least as often as he has 99/66/33.. Couldn't his raise be an attempt to shut out the rest of the field with a vulnerable overpair, particularly since everybody thinks everybody always c-bets these days?
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Old 02-18-2007, 08:08 PM
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I push now because they don't fold A9 but might on certain turns.

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Pushing is wayyyyyyy worst than calling if you think villian has A9. Actually, even if he's showing A9, shoving is sooo bad, you are over reprsentin your hand right at that moment.

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