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Old 02-18-2007, 06:36 PM
TinderWall TinderWall is offline
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Default Re: Any point 4-betting here?

All-in. You get value from plenty of worse hands.
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:00 PM
J. Stew J. Stew is offline
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Default Re: Any point 4-betting here?

so dude is checking aq twice then calling an ai on a paired board with trips? or is raising 222 utg flopping a set then checking twice . . . if he's checking those hands, he's checking what beats us too. we have no idea what he holds. imo it's more likely he's bluffing or has a monster than a lone queen checking it through twice on a wet board like that.
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Any point 4-betting here?

push 100% of the time.
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: Any point 4-betting here?

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push 100% of the time.

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Old 02-18-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Any point 4-betting here?

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there is no straight on the board and why isn't he betting a queen or 222 anywhere?

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no, there is no straight on the board, but using "holecards" someone could have a straight.

i call.
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: Any point 4-betting here?

Hmm, at least call. He checked the whole way and then bet the TINIEST amount on the river- u mite see T's full of Q's or Quad queens, or a REALLY badly played Ace Queen. UTG is an idiot if he checked the whole way with a set. You at least have to call here i mean you hit your river 2 outer.
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:31 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: Any point 4-betting here?

A shove here is pretty terrible.

A fold might might might be best...but thats kinda immaterial, cos I never fold here. So call i guess
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:35 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: Any point 4-betting here?

I think he has QQQQ or TTTQQ, just call without a read that he raises 22 or J9s UTG. Keep in mind this is FR so a raise up front is more likely to be a top tier hand like QQ/TT. I can definitely see QQ checking the flop trying to be tricky, then hitting quads and checking the turn again because he has the deck crippled
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Old 02-19-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Any point 4-betting here?

Results :

HERO raises to $163.90, and is all in
UTG calls $88.90
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO shows [8s 8c] (a full house, Eights full of Queens)
UTG shows [Ts Th] (a full house, Tens full of Queens)
UTG wins the pot ($339.80) with a full house, Tens full of Queens
HERO is sitting out
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