10/20 I lack basic fundamentals

[FoxwoodsFiend]

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I 3-bet shove flop.

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or call and c/r the turn depending on whether you need to protect yourself from getting bluffed all the time by this particular villain.

[TheWorstPlayer]

You guys don't care at all that your hand is very tranparent and a short stack is eager to commit himself against it? I don't understand what you guys think he has. Just because he's a short stack doesn't mean he's an idiot or a chronic bluffer. Can anyone give him a hand range? Or are you guys just happy to say "60bb, tpgk, I get it in." Yuck. That's how these short stackers can clean up.

[Kirkrrr]

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If he's only got $1300 I never fold this at any point.

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[Steve Giufre]

Can someone please explain to me why CRAI on the turn is a good line assuming you are going to get the money in? Are you ever getting called by a worse hand? I dunno maybe it makes sense cause he can have a pair and a straight draw or something. I dont see how this line is much better than the one he took if you decide he cant fold. At least he gives the guy a chance to fire a third barrell with dirt if he doesnt have it.


Or maybe my range in these spots is way to narrow. Very possible.

[wizardplow]

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The important thing to realize here when making this decision is that your call w/ AQ is probabbly extremely similar to calling with 88, on the turn, given a likely range of hands. You might see a worse ace once in a while, but understand that AQ only really beats a bluff given this action at 10-20, (at higher stakes people will value worse sometimes) so try not to get caught up with the fact you have AQ.

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Good point. It's a shame I only think like this half the time.

[cts]

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Just because he's a short stack doesn't mean he's an idiot or a chronic bluffer.

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In my experience, yes, yes it does (without any other read), often enough to felt this hand.

[shootaa]

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Just because he's a short stack doesn't mean he's an idiot or a chronic bluffer.

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In my experience, yes, yes it does (without any other read), often enough to felt this hand.

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it definitely does mean that.

[Your Mom]

his range certainly has to inlude AJ, AT, and maybe A9, A8.

[calbearsone]

Bet pot on flop and fold to raise or C/F turn if smooth called. Your hand is announced, and hands that you beat (AJ, maybe A10-16 possible ways) vs. hands that beat you (AK, 77, 44, A4, A7, 47-35 ways) make playing a big pot –EV. Given the board only likely draws are 56, which gets there so C/F turn is correct there also. If Villain has Ax then most likely he will not call PF raise, and not call pot bet on flop.
Mistake was raising PF. Let Ax and any 7 or 4 play…YES, you might steal with PF raise, but not with $60 since villain is getting 2 to 1 plus implied to play. The value of extra $40 pre (which is much less in actual EV won) is easily outweighed by lack of position and hand deception. Narrowing your possible hold cards OOP is not good. My point is that AQ HU OOP shows +EV in small pots, not big pots. Unless villain is a total fish, if the stack goes in you are taking the worst of it.
Call PF and bet pot with the given flop ($40). If villain raises you have much more room to reraise for info or call and C/C or C/F turn without losing your stack or the majority of it. If smooth called on flop, pot will be $120 so bet $80-$90. If called then C/C river assuming it isn’t an extremely large bet.
The lesson of this thread (IMO) is to always remember to bet what your opponent’s and is worth, not your own hand. In this case the villain’s hand was worth much more than yours, but if it wasn’t they weren’t going to call your big bets; So, by calling PF you would have lost much less, and if villain holds a weaker hand than AQ, calling PF is still better. One, you add some deception for this hand and later hands. Call PF, keep pot small at $40 and villain might call flop with Ax, any 7 or 4. Perhaps 56, 23, and 25 as well. All are drawing to 5 outs or less, so keep flop and turn bets small enough to allow improper calls. Of course, this assumes you won’t be silly enough to call off your entire stack to a straight or 2 pair for a $100 pot. You did, but only because you built the pot to $760 by the turn. If you hadn’t, weaker hands might still be calling, and you would have been able to get away from your AQ.

[calbearsone]

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If intent on raising PF with AQ OOP then raise to $80-$100 to define your OPPONENTS strength, not just yours. Assuming you don't make this play often you can bet flop and give up if shown any resistance. Costs a lot less. I don't especially like this play though because smart opponents will realize they can get you off your hand with a big bluff unless you happen to hold AA....That is, unless you know them well enough to think they are thinking you have one pair only. Then again, if they know you well enough to think that you are thinking they think you have one pair then your opponent can really screw you up by trapping you for your entire stack when they outflop you, even if your both deep....but this doesnt happen often on the internet, which is why online play sucks!! ; ) JK