Reading Jimmy Carter's new book on the Middle East - Page 3

West · #21 01-19-2007, 09:10 PM

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not sure if jimmy carter is the source you want to have it all "layed out for you"

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[/ QUOTE ]Jeez...I thought we had already chased out the spelling and grammar nits who choose to attack people's spelling rather than their arguments......

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I think my response had about as much substance as the post it responded to...

Joga Bonito · #22 01-19-2007, 09:20 PM

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As someone who grew up not understanding the history/details behind the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, this book is really laying it all out for me. Recommend it to anyone in my boat (which is most people, I imagine).

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Has it ever occured to you that Carter, Friend of the Socialists worldwide, Might have a biased and warped opinion?

The man is certifiably crazy.

West · #23 01-19-2007, 09:28 PM

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Has it ever occured to you that Carter, Friend of the Socialists worldwide, Might have a biased and warped opinion?

The man is certifiably crazy.

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No, for reasons already mentioned in this thread.

Certifiably crazy??? It's like people are turning into walking versions of Fox News now...

Joga Bonito · #24 01-19-2007, 09:41 PM

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Certifiably crazy??? It's like people are turning into walking versions of Fox News now...

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No, I just like tax cuts, I'm quite opposite of the "fox news" disciples on social issues, and further right than they could ever dream of being on economic issues.

All I am saying is that Jimmy Carter is not a good source for someone who doesn't know anything about a subject. He's not a good source for anything really.. He's good with all the socialists, isn't that something to consider?

West · #25 01-19-2007, 10:07 PM

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No, I just like tax cuts, I'm quite opposite of the "fox news" disciples on social issues, and further right than they could ever dream of being on economic issues.

All I am saying is that Jimmy Carter is not a good source for someone who doesn't know anything about a subject. He's not a good source for anything really.. He's good with all the socialists, isn't that something to consider?

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I don't know what being "good with all the socialists" refers to, and I'm not sure when socialism became synonymous with insanity, but let me get this straight... you're further right than Fox "news" could ever dream of being on economic issues, and Jimmy Carter is the one who is certifiable?

West · #26 01-19-2007, 10:09 PM

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I think Jimmy Carter is a sincere, intelligent, good, fair, and wonderful person.

His flaw is that he thinks too many others are too.

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Be careful not to confuse diplomacy with naivete..

HeavilyArmed · #27 01-19-2007, 10:12 PM

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I think Jimmy Carter is a sincere, intelligent, good, fair, and wonderful person only when he's swinging a framing hammer.

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Joga Bonito · #28 01-19-2007, 10:24 PM

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"good with all the socialists"

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If you have the time to read a book by carter this short article shouldn't be to much. Please, Please, Don't shout that this article is in anyway bias against Carter, the article is written by someone who admires him..

But this should answer your question.

http://www.nationalreview.com/flashb...nger101102.asp

West · #29 01-19-2007, 10:38 PM

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www.nationalreview.com

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That was your first mistake

bdk3clash · #30 01-19-2007, 11:28 PM

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...the article is written by someone who admires him...

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What are you basing this on? The author says he would "describe [him]self as a great critic of Carter’s who’s not blind to his virtues."

Anyway, the critical points seem to be, in order:

-Carter has been a thorn in the side of Presidents after him, including maybe opposing the original Gulf War, which pissed off Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney and caused "some people" to utter the word "treason."

-Carter sometimes says he'd never act against the United States government but sometimes says he's bound by a higher power.

-Carter doesn't really deserve his reputation as a facilitator of peace in the Middle East.

-He shamefully loves being praised, up to and including smiling when a caller on a talk show complimented him.

-He thinks he got screwed out of the Nobel Prize for his achievements as President and his actions since then are mere pandering and part of a campaign to win his coveted precious.

-Carter is "passionately anti-Israel," (no further explanation needed, apparently) the proof being that according to his former Secretary of Defense (by way of former Nixon speechwriter William Safire) he planned to "sell Israel down the river" had he served a second term.

-In the 1990s, he became "quite close" with Yasser Arafat.

-He didn't (doesn't?) care about human rights in "communist" dictatorships like China and was (is?) soft on North Korea, Nicaragua, and Iraq.

-He isn't a big fan of our current President's record on: human rights, SDI (!), the Kyoto protocols, ANWR, the "Axis of Evil."
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Standard right wing Carter-bashing talking points, as far as I can tell. As per the National Review's unofficial editorial style there's the standard smattering of historicism mixed in with some more loony assertions and biased remembrances.