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Old 01-17-2007, 01:15 AM
emmpee emmpee is offline
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I'm DontMessTX, for what it's worth. Looks like I'm doomed to finish 2nd place though.

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Bah, you were the one that knocked me out of the first tourney when i flopped middle pair and you called my bet with a gutshot and hit on the turn. I pushed the river and when you called you turned over your straight with 23 and ended up taking over 1st place in the tourney.

That hand made me really sad, but I think most of it was cause I had been bleeding chips for a while now and wasn't getting anything to play with for the past 45 min after getting up to 14k really early on [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Heh, I went back and checked my hand history and can't really justify the call I made on the flop. Rough beat.
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: $4/180 Challenge - Tonight @ 8:00 pm

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I'm DontMessTX, for what it's worth. Looks like I'm doomed to finish 2nd place though.

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Quick math tells me I lost by 1.5 points [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Oh well, there's always next week.
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: $4/180 Challenge - Tonight @ 8:00 pm

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Heh, I went back and checked my hand history and can't really justify the call I made on the flop. Rough beat.

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Implied odds? Haha.. I was watching that hand, I thought for sure stalker had something like 67 or some pair with a 7.
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: $4/180 Challenge - Tonight @ 8:00 pm

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Heh, I went back and checked my hand history and can't really justify the call I made on the flop. Rough beat.

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Implied odds? Haha.. I was watching that hand, I thought for sure stalker had something like 67 or some pair with a 7.

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hehe.. Yeah, honestly though I didn't even see the straight. I just figured you thought that I was weak with my turn bet, so when you raised and I called, you put me on something big. My intention was to reraise allin once you reraised on the turn.

Wish maybe you figured that out sooner that you shouldn't have called that flop bet [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But, there are always hands that make or break you. That happened to be a hand where you received a huge boost and catapulted into the ft because of. And unfortunetly for me, it sent me to the rail. NH sir
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: $4/180 Challenge - Tonight @ 8:00 pm

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I think 4 ITMs is better than 4 FTs. In a couple months of doing these no one has FTd 4 of these, and only one, EXTREMELY talented MTTer has gotten 4 ITMs [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. I think 4 ITMs is rare enough, and achievable enough, to make for an interesting progressive pot.

As for adding the money to a TOC, I think this is fine; however, I assume we're quickly apporaching the 6 month mark which would be a good time to run the first TOC, and if that happens it's probably best not to use it for the progressive pot if we've only had a month or so for it to accumulate.

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If your really focus'd it's quite possible. I've gone 4/4 Ft'ing 180s before. But i tend to run really good in em, that and i think people tend to not have the right strategy for them
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:51 AM
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If your really focus'd it's quite possible. I've gone 4/4 Ft'ing 180s before. But i tend to run really good in em, that and i think people tend to not have the right strategy for them

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What is your opinion of the right strategy?
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: $4/180 Challenge - Tonight @ 8:00 pm

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I think 4 ITMs is better than 4 FTs. In a couple months of doing these no one has FTd 4 of these, and only one, EXTREMELY talented MTTer has gotten 4 ITMs [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. I think 4 ITMs is rare enough, and achievable enough, to make for an interesting progressive pot.

As for adding the money to a TOC, I think this is fine; however, I assume we're quickly apporaching the 6 month mark which would be a good time to run the first TOC, and if that happens it's probably best not to use it for the progressive pot if we've only had a month or so for it to accumulate.

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If your really focus'd it's quite possible. I've gone 4/4 Ft'ing 180s before. But i tend to run really good in em, that and i think people tend to not have the right strategy for them

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Any tips so we can take those down?
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: $4/180 Challenge - Tonight @ 8:00 pm

I would imagine part of it is to play tight early, remember that they will pretty much call with anything and everything, including any AX hand. Don't bluff at pots early on. limpers in the first level at least will still call a 4x bb raise with nothing.

You really don't see good players for the most part until you get down to the 30s.

There is a few more things that I could say, but it's about 1am and i have work in the morning.. more later.
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Old 01-17-2007, 02:06 AM
Valsuvious Valsuvious is offline
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Default Re: $4/180 Challenge - Tonight @ 8:00 pm

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Heh, I went back and checked my hand history and can't really justify the call I made on the flop. Rough beat.

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Implied odds? Haha.. I was watching that hand, I thought for sure stalker had something like 67 or some pair with a 7.

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hehe.. Yeah, honestly though I didn't even see the straight. I just figured you thought that I was weak with my turn bet, so when you raised and I called, you put me on something big. My intention was to reraise allin once you reraised on the turn.

Wish maybe you figured that out sooner that you shouldn't have called that flop bet [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But, there are always hands that make or break you. That happened to be a hand where you received a huge boost and catapulted into the ft because of. And unfortunetly for me, it sent me to the rail. NH sir

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here is the hand in question btw:


POKERSTARS GAME #7976858305: TOURNAMENT #40750593, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII (100/200) - 2007/01/16 - 21:52:32 (ET)
Table '40750593 13' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: seahawkfan1k (5515 in chips)
Seat 2: Stalker1121 (9765 in chips)
Seat 3: DontMessTX (12135 in chips)
Seat 4: Ezzy777 (11445 in chips)
Seat 5: ozocre (1615 in chips)
Seat 6: #44BERT (4080 in chips)
Seat 7: bucktotal (6483 in chips)
Seat 8: Towner2 (6370 in chips)
Seat 9: Chips933 (10630 in chips)
seahawkfan1k: posts the ante 25
Stalker1121: posts the ante 25
DontMessTX: posts the ante 25
Ezzy777: posts the ante 25
ozocre: posts the ante 25
#44BERT: posts the ante 25
bucktotal: posts the ante 25
Towner2: posts the ante 25
Chips933: posts the ante 25
seahawkfan1k: posts small blind 100
Stalker1121: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stalker1121 [6s Th]
DontMessTX: calls 200
Ezzy777: folds
ozocre: folds
#44BERT: folds
bucktotal: folds
Towner2: folds
Chips933: calls 200
seahawkfan1k: calls 100
Stalker1121: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 2c 6h]
seahawkfan1k: checks
Stalker1121: bets 600
DontMessTX: calls 600
Chips933: folds
seahawkfan1k: folds
*** TURN *** [8c 2c 6h] [5s]
Stalker1121: bets 1000
DontMessTX: raises 1200 to 2200
Stalker1121: calls 1200
*** RIVER *** [8c 2c 6h 5s] [9h]
Stalker1121: bets 6740 and is all-in
DontMessTX: calls 6740
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Stalker1121: shows [6s Th] (a pair of Sixes)
DontMessTX: shows [3c 4d] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
DontMessTX collected 20105 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 20105 | Rake 0
Board [8c 2c 6h 5s 9h]
Seat 1: seahawkfan1k (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Stalker1121 (big blind) showed [6s Th] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 3: DontMessTX showed [3c 4d] and won (20105) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 4: Ezzy777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ozocre folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: #44BERT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: bucktotal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Towner2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Chips933 (button) folded on the Flop
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Old 01-17-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: $4/180 Challenge - Tonight @ 8:00 pm

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here is the hand in question btw:


POKERSTARS GAME #7976858305: TOURNAMENT #40750593, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII (100/200) - 2007/01/16 - 21:52:32 (ET)
Table '40750593 13' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: seahawkfan1k (5515 in chips)
Seat 2: Stalker1121 (9765 in chips)
Seat 3: DontMessTX (12135 in chips)
Seat 4: Ezzy777 (11445 in chips)
Seat 5: ozocre (1615 in chips)
Seat 6: #44BERT (4080 in chips)
Seat 7: bucktotal (6483 in chips)
Seat 8: Towner2 (6370 in chips)
Seat 9: Chips933 (10630 in chips)
seahawkfan1k: posts the ante 25
Stalker1121: posts the ante 25
DontMessTX: posts the ante 25
Ezzy777: posts the ante 25
ozocre: posts the ante 25
#44BERT: posts the ante 25
bucktotal: posts the ante 25
Towner2: posts the ante 25
Chips933: posts the ante 25
seahawkfan1k: posts small blind 100
Stalker1121: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stalker1121 [6s Th]
DontMessTX: calls 200
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Seat 3: DontMessTX showed [3c 4d] and won (20105) with a straight, Deuce to Six



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Upon further review, I also have no defense for limping 34o UTG. Accept the following attempts:

1) I was the big stack
2) Was watching the end of American Idol (most likely)
3) Was getting something to drink
4) Busy mashing F5 on the 2+2 forums in an attempt to get them to load
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