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Old 01-16-2007, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: Throwing Someone Else Under the Bus -- Foxwoods 20/40

IMO 3bet pf is the key here.

Good flop/turn.
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Old 01-16-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: Throwing Someone Else Under the Bus -- Foxwoods 20/40

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Needless to say, though, Bus got check-raised by the MP player...

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And totally pwned. This is a flaw I've seen with him in the past as well, you should work with him on his hand reading of the field, not just the current aggressor. I felt he sees the trees, but never the forest when playing with him... he is so close to becoming a great player, with just a little help he will get there.

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Old 01-16-2007, 12:49 PM
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Needless to say, though, Bus got check-raised by the MP player...

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And totally pwned. This is a flaw I've seen with him in the past as well, you should work with him on his hand reading of the field, not just the current aggressor. I felt he sees the trees, but never the forest when playing with him... he is so close to becoming a great player, with just a little help he will get there.

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You sound like a pompous ass [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] If he called down he got owned. I think his spot on the turn is one of those "hell, I really think I'm beat but maybe you're really retarded so I'm going to bet-fold." I don't really like betting as I can't see how anyone couldn't have us beat given this action/board. Thing is, I'm constantly surprised by things people do so I'm betting. Then folding.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:13 PM
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Needless to say, though, Bus got check-raised by the MP player...

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And totally pwned. This is a flaw I've seen with him in the past as well, you should work with him on his hand reading of the field, not just the current aggressor. I felt he sees the trees, but never the forest when playing with him... he is so close to becoming a great player, with just a little help he will get there.

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You sound like a pompous ass [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] If he called down he got owned. I think his spot on the turn is one of those "hell, I really think I'm beat but maybe you're really retarded so I'm going to bet-fold." I don't really like betting as I can't see how anyone couldn't have us beat given this action/board. Thing is, I'm constantly surprised by things people do so I'm betting. Then folding.

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I think betting is pretty bad. And I sound like a pompous ass because u luv me, and we both have luv for the Bus [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 01-16-2007, 01:34 PM
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Preflop: I would 3bet this and get it head up.

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That's not happening.

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Why? In my experience when tight players limp, and 25 vpip seems fairly tight to me, they know they don't have enough hand to call two more bets.

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Uh, sure.
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Old 01-16-2007, 02:56 PM
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I think betting is pretty bad.

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So you're folding the river when this guy bets?
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Throwing Someone Else Under the Bus -- Foxwoods 20/40

if i do not 3bet pf, i fold. i do not call to let bb/limpers in.
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:19 PM
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if i do not 3bet pf, i fold. i do not call to let bb/limpers in.

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Folding is far and away the worst of 3 options.
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:19 PM
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:30 PM
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if i do not 3bet pf, i fold. i do not call to let bb/limpers in.

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Folding is far and away the worst of 3 options.

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Please explain. thanks.

IMO 3bet > fold > call.
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