Refusing to remove hoodie during national anthem . (news link)

[Drew16]

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It should be within my right as a US citizen to sit down and not remove my head covering during the singing of the national anthem.

This is what makes us a better country than Iran or China.

This is "freedom".

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This argument is completely flawed. What if I find it disrespectful that you refuse to remove your head covering? Wouldn't that be taking away my freedom?

Removing your hat or whatever is about showing respect. So I consider this disrespectful. Please note I'm not some crazy "god bless america" nutso with a tat like shockey on his arm. I'm not really sensitive to this topic either, just putting in my $.02

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no, you are free to leave if you find it disrespectful. Noone should be forced to participate in the national anthem.

[Boris]

Kipin - I guess I don't see the difference between 1) standing up and shouting F$#k You America! all through the National Anthem, and 2) refusing to remove hood/hat.

Clearly nobody would complain if the dude was removed for shouting F#@k You America!

[PITTM]

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It is my opinion that someone who believes that one's words or actions are so dangerous that they need to be censored is in fact, much more dangerous to the longevity of this country than a single dissenter refusing to stand up and salute the flag.



I agree wholeheartedly with that, but not as it pertains to a punk 17 year old kid.

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importance of 17 year old kids rights<<<<importance of random hick who NEEDS everyone to stand for the national anthem so that we havent "taken away his right" to see everyone standing up's rights...

rj

[spartaninpr]

As a veteran,I would smack that [censored] hoodie off his head hard enough to loosen the fillings of his freakin'teeth.

sigh

OK,I feel better now.

[The Yugoslavian]

I'd guess I stand less than 30% of the time for the national anthem before a live sports game....it's one of the most arbitrary and retarded habits I know of. In fact, having the anthem sung at all before a sporting event makes absolutely no sense to me.

Yugoslav

[guids]

RJ, punk kids should have no rights.

[TimM]

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This argument is completely flawed. What if I find it disrespectful that you refuse to remove your head covering? Wouldn't that be taking away my freedom?

Removing your hat or whatever is about showing respect. So I consider this disrespectful.

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Clearly there is a line somewhere. His actions are easily ignored though, so any disrespect you feel has to be your problem. Being offended is the same thing. Otherwise anyone can say they are offended by anything they want.

[heater]

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maybe I didn't really explain myself enough

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Maybe what you said makes no sense.

[The Yugoslavian]

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Take it off and stand up, or have a good reason not to

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I'd argue that it's more important to have a good reason TO stand up and take it off.

Yugoslav

[PokerAmateur4]

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Kipin - would it be ok to kick the dude out of the arena for repeatedly shouting bad words?

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Yes.

If he is actively disrupting the ceremony then there is a problem and he is obviously taking away from other people's experiences.

[/ QUOTE ]So it's a matter of drawing the line between what should and what shouldn't be "reasonably" tolerated weighed against what the public believes the worth is of the individual to express whatever he's trying to?

I think this is it.