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Old 11-29-2006, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: kk call down superscary flop

CO had A8 with 8 of spades
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: kk call down superscary flop

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CO had A8 with 8 of spades

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Old 11-29-2006, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: kk call down superscary flop

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yuk means yes?

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yuk means thats about the worst line you could ever take

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yuk means lots of times he's trying to get it in here with a hand like *TADA* a pair + FD (I was going to say this before i saw results) and you'll get pushed on when instead you can see a safe turn by just calling.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: kk call down superscary flop

W/e you do, I would not raise flop. Honestly, I would fold flop b/c its very likely both have pair+draw or alerady made hand, like two pair/flopped straight/low flopped flush, maybe even set. Just fold KK w/ no spades b/c its suicide to call bets on a connected monotone flop vs 2 other opponents, with one betting and one calling behind a bettor and a caller. It is statistically improbably KK on this board that you will win this hand at showdown vs 2 other opponents, and its very possible ur drawing slim to dead.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: kk call down superscary flop

Personally, I don't mind folding the flop here.

However, it is a small bet and after you call you get a great turn card. Now, here I like to make a sizable bet ~$40 and you can push out alot of the straight and/or flush draws now that there is only one card to come.

Of course, I would fold to resistance and check any river.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: kk call down superscary flop

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W/e you do, I would not raise flop. Honestly, I would fold flop b/c its very likely both have pair+draw or alerady made hand, like two pair/flopped straight/low flopped flush, maybe even set.

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Explain why this is "very likely." Especially given the weak bet we're faced with. Are you saying you'd fold to a $5 bet here? How puny of a bet do you have to be faced w/ in this situation to call w/ KK?

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Just fold KK w/ no spades b/c its suicide to call bets on a connected monotone flop vs 2 other opponents, with one betting and one calling behind a bettor and a caller. It is statistically improbably KK on this board that you will win this hand at showdown vs 2 other opponents, and its very possible ur drawing slim to dead.

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This is completely untrue. People are on draws so much of the time here. Those little 1/5 pot bets are usually draw-pricing bets. Anyone folding anywhere in this hand is leaving money on the table, IMO.
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: kk call down superscary flop

OP played this hand like a champ
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:21 PM
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Spade draws, straight draws, 7x, PPs, etc.

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none of these bet turn.

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Lol so wrong. look at the bet size. This is the naked A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or some [censored] saying "please please please let me see river cheap" almost 100% of the time.
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: kk call down superscary flop

Why didn't you bet the turn after BB checked?
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: kk call down superscary flop

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OP played this hand like a champ

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I disagree. I put in a big turn raise here every time.

Your opponents are playing with the cards face up. Why don't you use that information?
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