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Old 11-29-2006, 02:01 AM
jcmoussa jcmoussa is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 what to do with AA?

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call call call, he has a big draw, he's aggro as hell.

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thats what i thought too but even if he has a set or a straight a small % of the time this can be a losing play. there are also a lot of draws he can have that are a fav over aces which pushes his hand range equity even more against you. if you raised more, like to 1k then i would be more tempted to call. i think this is a fold even vs cleaner.

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i left out the part saying call if you want to gamble, meaning the draws, but i agree with everythng.
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 what to do with AA?

raise bigger on flop too imo
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 what to do with AA?

its almost an automuck without the bb in the pot betting 200 on flop. if it's hu or a three way pot, you're either dead to two, or a slight dog to the draws that go in on this flop. niether of which make a whole lot of money i dont think.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 what to do with AA?

why are you raising? ure just letting him play optimally and if ure going to fold in this spot(which i think you should be doing), i dont like it
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 what to do with AA?

I'm not sure this is such an easy fold as a lot of people are making it out to be. I mean, every time a guy shoves you're just going to assume he has a monster and fold? Granted the villian didnt seem to conscerned about the original bettor, but you said yourself he's tricky. The hero only has a buy-in in front of him, this game is 4 handed, if you fold in situations like this, as short handed as this game is, I think you're going to get run over. For having a set or straight, it doesnt seem like he wants any value from it... I think the tempo of the game is important, like if he's been bullied recently or if you two have been playing back at each other a lot, but I think I would call pretty fast, and if lose, I lose, only one buy-in and hopefully your roll is sufficient. If you fold here, where do you call? With nothing less than 66 or 75? Weak...
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 what to do with AA?

assuming The Cleaner respects your game at all, this is such an easy fold. Even w/ no reads, u are likely either a bit ahead, or WAY behind. Fold the AA here.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:16 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 what to do with AA?

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Wow, when Grimstar says muck that has some serious value to it.

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HOHO GRIMSTAR NEVER FOLDS DERF DERF BTW I HAVE NEVER PLAYED GRIMSTAR OR HIGH STAKES AT ALL FOR THAT MATTER

it wasn't funny in any of the first 64264325 threads grimstar advocated a fold and it isn't now either
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:38 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 what to do with AA?

jcmoussa,if he has a flush and straight draw combo then he is a favourite over Heros overpair.

I think think this is a fold.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:50 AM
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i bet he has 56o, u should call and stm. holla
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 what to do with AA?

I'd fold but Cleaner rarely has 75/set here.
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