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Old 11-17-2006, 07:22 AM
Born2DogBaby Born2DogBaby is offline
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I think calling this river is horrible. Those who say call what do you expect to get shown ?

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a mid-high pocket pair with a spade/KxQs/air
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:51 AM
HedonismBot HedonismBot is offline
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Default Re: AA 400nl checkup

Reraise more preflop. Bet flop and proceed to get it in. As played call river.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:01 AM
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I think calling this river is horrible. Those who say call what do you expect to get shown ?

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a mid-high pocket pair with a spade/KxQs/air

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Please tell me how often you find air or KQo cold calling 50 out of a 400 stack from sb preflop and opener yet to act? How often do you see a J high flush value betting this river or even betting the turn?
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:04 AM
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I just t hink that people are right in saying that my line is totally screwed up, and that given my hand is massively underrepresented by river.

But this is irrelevant if there is none of villians range that would bet turn and river that I beat.
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:09 PM
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Please tell me how often you find air or KQo cold calling 50 out of a 400 stack from sb preflop and opener yet to act?

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He really shouldn't be calling with anything that makes a boat but KK. In fact, he really shouldn't be calling with anything with those stacks. To assign a rational preflop hand range to this player is impossible.

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How often do you see a J high flush value betting this river or even betting the turn?

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Again, in theroy, the two card J high flush should be betting the turn 100% of the time. If he's a thinker (unlikely) he can't put you on a boat, so it's a matter of what flush he's willing to VB the river. I'd imagine Q for sure, and possibly J if he likes to bet "thin". In fact I'd say a typical player is less likely to bet the turn with a set or two pair than QsQ/JsJ.
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