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11-16-2006, 11:23 PM
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Re: 10/20 NL.....elementary fold??
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wow no offense but all the posters who have commented so far (everyone said fold) are dead wrong, look at pot:stack size, this is like... easy call. easy. does anyone even read posts anymore? preflop: 50 straddle (dead) -> cold call in position -> poster repops it to 200. My first instinct was this was too small, but a pot rr would be only 230 total, so its not that bad. Hero is OOP so I would lean toward a little more then pot, but 200 isnt horrible. Any case,... flop: 630, then hero leads 350 - he has effective 650 behind now - and after the straddler folds, the cold caller pushes. this is never AK, Hero, you suggested this, you are wrong, that isolates always vs a straddler, and given thep f, if he didnt, would now prolly move on it. if he was capable, atleast. Same reasoning w/ AA/QQ. Anycase, tremendous odds, if he has 55 just spike the bdoor straight. edit: precisely, to make the call correct, 650:~2630, you need less then 25% equity. wow, just gamble it up. [/ QUOTE ] I read the hand differently; I read OP as leading on the flop for 350 and having 1200 more, so he's going to have to call 1200 to win 2500. He still doesn't need a ton of equity to make the call, but it's 33% rather than 25%. 
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#24
11-17-2006, 01:26 AM
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Re: 10/20 NL.....elementary fold??
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[ QUOTE ] wow no offense but all the posters who have commented so far (everyone said fold) are dead wrong, look at pot:stack size, this is like... easy call. easy. does anyone even read posts anymore? preflop: 50 straddle (dead) -> cold call in position -> poster repops it to 200. My first instinct was this was too small, but a pot rr would be only 230 total, so its not that bad. Hero is OOP so I would lean toward a little more then pot, but 200 isnt horrible. Any case,... flop: 630, then hero leads 350 - he has effective 650 behind now - and after the straddler folds, the cold caller pushes. this is never AK, Hero, you suggested this, you are wrong, that isolates always vs a straddler, and given thep f, if he didnt, would now prolly move on it. if he was capable, atleast. Same reasoning w/ AA/QQ. Anycase, tremendous odds, if he has 55 just spike the bdoor straight. edit: precisely, to make the call correct, 650:~2630, you need less then 25% equity. wow, just gamble it up. [/ QUOTE ] I read the hand differently; I read OP as leading on the flop for 350 and having 1200 more, so he's going to have to call 1200 to win 2500. He still doesn't need a ton of equity to make the call, but it's 33% rather than 25%. [/ QUOTE ] possible i read it wrong, but i read it as op having 60 bbs to start the hand.
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#27
11-17-2006, 02:43 AM
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Re: 10/20 NL.....elementary fold??
Bobbos,
My thoughts were the same as yours, except the OP is even more severely shortstacked. People need to understand that the $50 straddle changes the game from 10-20 to 10-20-50. So OP is playing 10-20-50 with $1750 in front of him. To be honest, I am playing poker right now and don't remember the action of the hand, I just know an A flopped and OP started the hand with 35 BBs. I think a call is a definite option. I am not that good at short stacked play, but I would call.
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#30
11-17-2006, 01:10 PM
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Re: 10/20 NL.....elementary fold??
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[ QUOTE ] Is this the Chelsea game? [/ QUOTE ] No, but I go to that one as well....smaller stakes there though.....you play there? [/ QUOTE ] def got my car broken into last time i was at that game... but its softtt i think maybe 2 guys knew how to play poker some fat lag dude who thought he was sammy farha and some asian who was tight
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