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#21
11-17-2006, 03:55 PM
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Re: The strategy diference between NL & LIMIT 2-7 TD
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It's a problem because by and large players make correct folds and there's no later-street play. [/ QUOTE ] Then it becomes more of a bluffing arms race, and less of a bet-like-a-robot-and-show-down-the-best-cards game. Isn't that more fun/skillful anyway? 
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#22
11-17-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: The strategy diference between NL & LIMIT 2-7 TD
FWIW, I agree. I think NL/PL TD will develop like PLO8.
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#23
11-17-2006, 05:07 PM
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Re: The strategy diference between NL & LIMIT 2-7 TD
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[ QUOTE ] It's a problem because by and large players make correct folds and there's no later-street play. [/ QUOTE ] Then it becomes more of a bluffing arms race, and less of a bet-like-a-robot-and-show-down-the-best-cards game. Isn't that more fun/skillful anyway? [/ QUOTE ] Not if your a skilled NL player... it becomes frustrating Note, I am not a skilled NL player but I can see this none the less). Matt Flynn and I were discussing this recently as he was learning TD, he agreed with my POV and he is far more qualified to discuss NL theory than I will probably ever be since I am just a lowly limit guy. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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#24
11-17-2006, 05:11 PM
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Re: The strategy diference between NL & LIMIT 2-7 TD
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FWIW, I agree. I think NL/PL TD will develop like PLO8. [/ QUOTE ] And what is that? PLO8 dominating micro limits and LO8 dominating everything above?
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#25
11-17-2006, 07:11 PM
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Re: The strategy diference between NL & LIMIT 2-7 TD
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It's a problem because by and large players make correct folds and there's no later-street play. [/ QUOTE ] Then it becomes more of a bluffing arms race, and less of a bet-like-a-robot-and-show-down-the-best-cards game. Isn't that more fun/skillful anyway? [/ QUOTE ] Not if your a skilled NL player... it becomes frustrating Note, I am not a skilled NL player but I can see this none the less). Matt Flynn and I were discussing this recently as he was learning TD, he agreed with my POV and he is far more qualified to discuss NL theory than I will probably ever be since I am just a lowly limit guy. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I think triple draw is a terrible game for no limit. Same for all other longshot draw games and most hilo split games.
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#26
11-17-2006, 07:50 PM
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Re: The strategy diference between NL & LIMIT 2-7 TD
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I think triple draw is a terrible game for no limit. Same for all other longshot draw games and most hilo split games. [/ QUOTE ] Depends on what you mean by terrible, I guess. I agree it will not be a particularly balanced or sustainable game. But it will offer a window of opportunity for those who become/are expert in it to have very high winrates. fwiw, high stakes plo8 ran consistenly on party for upwards of a year. -g
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#27
11-17-2006, 08:57 PM
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Re: The strategy diference between NL & LIMIT 2-7 TD
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Show us how your getting 5:1 implied odds if he pushes, and then you still have the opportunity to bluff on the river? I think your post has some errors, its as if you mixed limit and NL thoughts into the same response. Please explain further. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I mixed up situations. In the scenario I gave, you have implied odds. In another scenario that only exists in my head (OOP and deeper) you can bluff the river.
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#28
11-17-2006, 09:05 PM
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Re: The strategy diference between NL & LIMIT 2-7 TD
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[ QUOTE ] Show us how your getting 5:1 implied odds if he pushes, and then you still have the opportunity to bluff on the river? I think your post has some errors, its as if you mixed limit and NL thoughts into the same response. Please explain further. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I mixed up situations. In the scenario I gave, you have implied odds. In another scenario that only exists in my head (OOP and deeper) you can bluff the river. [/ QUOTE ] The guy pushed, explain your concept of implied odds here. Either that or try re-posting with a better explanation of your concept. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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#30
11-17-2006, 09:11 PM
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Re: The strategy diference between NL & LIMIT 2-7 TD
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The guy pushed after the 2nd draw. The implied odds exist when deliberating whether to call the PSB after the 1st draw. [/ QUOTE ] Gotcha. I thought you were discussing implied odds after the push which made no sense. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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