A good time to stop and go?

[Shillx]

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He gets the maximum here from a weaker hand (like A5)

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wrong.
... and he loses the maximum to a better hand.
if he's TAG as you said, he'll fold A5 here.
i call the turn and call the river, maybe raise the river if it's safe.

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Call turn/raise river is an option but it is pretty ballzy on this board. It is best done when basically no scare cards can come (besides the ones that help you). I usually reserve this line for when the flop comes A-high, I have a pair of aces and either:

a) It is unlikely that he has an ace
b) He won't go nuts on the flop/turn with a worse ace but will pay a river raise

He also could have flopped a draw or something else with outs that we want to pay or fold on the turn. It seems really unlikely that he will be drawing thin enough that we can risk giving another card + get paid off enough to make a river raise worth our time. You would basically have to have him on a hand like 77 a good amount to make a call-raise river play work out best.

[4708romain]

i don't think he has better than one pair already. so my concern on the river is: how often does he have a 9 with a better kicker? did the river complete draws?
if those possibilities are a minority, i'd raise. furthermore, there's no point in taking that risk if i know he'll fold 9T or 77 here.

[Shillx]

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i don't think he has better than one pair already. so my concern on the river is: how often does he have a 9 with a better kicker? did the river complete draws?
if those possibilities are a minority, i'd raise. furthermore, there's no point in taking that risk if i know he'll fold 9T or 77 here.

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The problem is that missed draws aren't calling the raise. If draws make up a good portion of his range then you are certainly going to lose $ by raising the river. Either he misses and folds or hits and re-pops.

I like calling down and I also like raising and betting the river. It would an uncanny read to call and raise the river imo

[sean c]

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He gets the maximum here from a weaker hand (like A5)

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wrong.
... and he loses the maximum to a better hand.
if he's TAG as you said, he'll fold A5 here.
i call the turn and call the river, maybe raise the river if it's safe.

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If he is TAG he is not folding A5 or A2 here. Really the only thing in his range we are behind is a better 9. He has to call the turn raise with a good portion of his range and this isn't really anywhere close to a WA/WB situation. There is mucho value here in a turn raise IMO. I also think ther is a good chance he even calls down with his T9 or 77 here. I raise the turn and bet the river. The only negative would be getting 3-bet but i think this happens almost never here.

[drzen]

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He gets the maximum here from a weaker hand (like A5)

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wrong.
... and he loses the maximum to a better hand.
if he's TAG as you said, he'll fold A5 here.
i call the turn and call the river, maybe raise the river if it's safe.

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If he is TAG he is not folding A5 or A2 here.

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He ought to.

[TheCardGeek]

In this situation I think the BB is trying to resteal, or he's trying to milk some action out of a monster hand where it was almost folded around to him. He probably takes our flop bet as a c-bet, so he raises. The cheapest way to find out how he really feels about his hand (while letting him know we aren't just c-betting) is to reraise the flop.

I think the rest of the hand becomes straight forward if we reraise the flop.

[Sushiglutton]

Given ur tight image I like ur line. He may c/f after a flop 3-bet.