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Old 10-09-2006, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: A small hand reading lesson

People are making far-reaching assumptions about how aggressive Villain with only 28 hands worth of stats to go on.

Reading way too much into a couple orbits of play is a mistake of greater magnitude than capping/not capping the flop and/or turn.
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Old 10-09-2006, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: A small hand reading lesson

66 or 77
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: A small hand reading lesson

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And to make my point: Villain showed A2o for Ace-high on the river!

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I think it is wise to always keep in your mind that your opponent can have something besides the hand he is representing, even when you think you have a reasonable read.

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I can see what you're getting at but I tend to assume that any given player is incapable of this, until after I see them make a play like this. Even then I tread carefully. With those hole cards, that board and action, villain shows A2o such an infinitesimally small amount of the time that it shouldn't really figure into our thinking. So ya, villain could have anything at anytime, but you can't give much credit to these types of holdings without significant reads imo.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:09 AM
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With those stats T8 (since u post it AA). Cap flop, bet/call turn. I think capping the turn is spew.
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:59 AM
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cap the flop dude.

anyway he's going to show you AA, KK, 96, T8, or 85.

edit: JJ never, 77 never, 76 never, 72 never, J9 fairly unlikely

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why 76 never?
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Old 10-10-2006, 11:49 AM
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boat on river. i think full houses raise.
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Old 10-10-2006, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: A small hand reading lesson

This thread is pointless. All it needs now is to have Ed's thread linked in (unfortunately, I'm sworn to never link that in to anything ever again).

Your flop-to-turn line is standard for an experienced player against an apparently loose opponent; your turn cap is pretty spewish. There is really no lesson to be gleaned from the fact that Villan showed down garbage, given that a) Hero didn't have any sort of read that Villan would play garbage like this, or in fact any read at all; and b) Hero wouldn't have played this hand any differently if there had been such a read.

save the micros
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:01 PM
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boat on river. i think full houses raise.

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sorry, didnīt noticed that 7 on the river
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:53 PM
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I'd say: T8, 66.
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Old 10-10-2006, 01:19 PM
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The lesson here is that this fish belongs on your buddy list [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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