Transitioning from online to live.

[cbloom]

I play like 10/5 live. Wait for AA. Double up. Repeat.

[ianlippert]

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2. Work on your patience. You ADHD'ers with your 12-tabling lifestyles are going to have a bitchmother of a time getting used to 30 hands an hour. The temptation to start playing subpar hands and try to "make something happen" can be overwhelming; don't fall for it. Keep playing your game, knowing that you'll get a hand less often but you'll get paid off far more handsomely than you usually do.


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This is going to be the biggest adjustment for those used to the speed of online play. You think a 10K break even streak is annoying wait till it takes you 1-2 months to get through it. Or try keeping your patience when you havent won a pot in 4 hours. Theres a reason they used to say 'its a hard way to make an easy living', the variance in poker is sick, and its even worse once you start playing live.

For me being a live pro isnt even an option, I'd rather just take some crap $10/hr job than play poker live for a living. You'd have to be playing some pretty high stakes to make it worthwhile.

[yad]

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Biggest thing:


ITS NOT 6 MAX. ITS FULL RING. THIS REQUIRES AN ADJUSTMENT. I personally will go into the card room later at night to try and find just about ANY game that is SH vs. Full. Limit, NL, hell, even Omahahahaha.

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This, combined with the fact that you get 30 hands/hour, is what makes live poker so boring (at least from a poker playing standpoint).

If you can get in a late-night or early-morning shorthanded game, though, it's both way more fun and way more profitable. The other players won't have a clue how to adjust.

[Tickner]

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I'd rather have my nipples twisted by burning hot scissor-rods and wear barbwire around my waist all day than play live poker.

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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Really? Live poker for me is >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>> than online poker. Hourly rates take a hit though. Not being able to Multitable is a bitch. I wonder if the casino would let me pull up a chair between tables and play both at the same time?

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Precisely my point. I normally 12 table. This doesnt mean I play 12x the hands per hour, it means I play abot 36x the hands per hour online. So basically, playing live cuts my winrate down to 1/36th of my online potential (actually more like 25 or so because winrate shoots up etc, but STILL).

yeah.

[cbloom]

Tickner, you have to play at 10x the limit. Have you ever seen the 10-20 game on Live at the Bike ? Huge donk-fest.

[MLSchaff]

I think the biggest difference is that you are forced to play short-stack poker. At lower stakes, you generally are allowed to buy in for only 30-50bb (i.e. in L.A. cardrooms, the $100NL game is $2-$3 blinds, and the $200NL game is $3-$5). Which means that you will be getting your full stack in on a large percentage of hands that you get to the river on until you accumulate a larger stack - and then you will still be going up against shortstacks.

Biggest downside of live poker - $1 per hand jackpot drop, most places take a rake ($0.50 is common) on hands that don't reach the flop, tipping the dealer. All VERY -EV.

That being said, if online goes all to hell - see you at Commerce, the Bike, Hawaiian Gardens, Hollywood Park...

[MyTurn2Raise]

I pwn live, it's to bad I cannot video tape it for you guys to watch

I disagree with #6--tighten up OOP

When you play live, advertising gets you so much mileage it's ridiculous. I will sometimes raise in the freaking dark UTG+1. The cards don't matter. The opponents do and I don't really care if I lose one pot. My plan is to get every chip at the table which does involve metagame. That's right, I create a LAG/donkish image by playing [censored] hand values preflop and then playing my solid postflop game. It's fun when the tight preflop guys label me as a donk and stack off their overpairs to my flopped two pairs [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].
Your opponents will overrate a sample size of 50 and what it means...it's great.

Don't discuss poker at all. Even if you're trying not too, you'll give away concepts that your opponents have never ever had the first inkling about.

Apparently, I'm not the best guy to have at a table with my banter, so I won't opine anymore than that. Let's just say that you know when you're playing live with me.

FWIW-my live limit game is almost completely opposite.

[mudbuddha]

i guess live poker is the future? haha

[Wilco23]

Live buy-in: $200
Drinks: $1
Dealer tokes: $1
Another great post from Pokey: priceless

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[4_2_it]

Pokey --- You forgot to mention that straddling is a great way to loosen up the table and tick off the two nits sitting on your immediate right. It also creates a gamblooor image.