The basis for a perfect roulette system

[AlienBoy]

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Single zero roulette isnt a bad deal, but blackjack (basic strategy), craps (pass/dont pass with maximum odds) and baccarat (bank) still beat it. Double zero roulette is one of the worst games you can play. Wizard of Oz will give the house edge on all of them I assume.

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DOuble Zero roulette is a 5.26% house advantage. Most slot machines are better than that!! Roulette is about the worst game in the casino.


Non-continuous shuffle blackjack can be played with an advantage if you can use a counting system. Continuous shuffle BJ is -EV.

Craps can be played with an advantage if you can develop the skill of precision shooting.

Baccarat has a very slim house advantage, but it cannot be beaten as the game does not lend itself to counting or strategy techniques (i.e. no system for baccarat).

Full Pay video poker machines can be played with an advantage.

Horse/sports books lend themselves to certain types of advantage play.

Slots and Everything else is -EV.


AB

[Howling]

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Single zero roulette isnt a bad deal, but blackjack (basic strategy), craps (pass/dont pass with maximum odds) and baccarat (bank) still beat it. Double zero roulette is one of the worst games you can play. Wizard of Oz will give the house edge on all of them I assume.

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DOuble Zero roulette is a 5.26% house advantage. Most slot machines are better than that!! Roulette is about the worst game in the casino.


Non-continuous shuffle blackjack can be played with an advantage if you can use a counting system. Continuous shuffle BJ is -EV.

Craps can be played with an advantage if you can develop the skill of precision shooting.

Baccarat has a very slim house advantage, but it cannot be beaten as the game does not lend itself to counting or strategy techniques (i.e. no system for baccarat).

Full Pay video poker machines can be played with an advantage.

Horse/sports books lend themselves to certain types of advantage play.

Slots and Everything else is -EV.


AB

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Slots are not always -EV

With Jackpots and mini and micro jackpots that grow until hit, you can play certain slots that are +EV once the jackpot crosses a threshhold.

[AlienBoy]

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Slots are not always -EV

With Jackpots and mini and micro jackpots that grow until hit, you can play certain slots that are +EV once the jackpot crosses a threshhold.

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I stand corrected - I wasn't thinking about the progressive jackpots... Still, I have to believe that the probability of making the JP is so practically unobtainable that it is virtually -EV... but then slots is not a game I've spent any time considering.,..


AB

[latefordinner]

no such thing as "virtually -EV"

positive EV with an extraordinarily high variance

worth looking at in +EV video poker as well to see how much that is tilted towards the royal

that guy in the UK is selling his roulette computers now though

[AlienBoy]

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positive EV with an extraordinarily high variance

worth looking at in +EV video poker as well to see how much that is tilted towards the royal

that guy in the UK is selling his roulette computers now though

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Done the vid poker thing - it's all about the Royals and 4 deuces. If you can just sit there and grind, the royals will come your way. Plus comps, some people claim to make a living. Not a very good one though. Grinding away weeks at a time to hit a Royal is *lame*.

AB

[yellowjack]

grinch,

Your ideas about being able to win in -EV games are posted about once every few weeks here. They come from not actually knowing what EV is. Work out the amount you win vs. the amount you lose and you'll eventually come to a conclusion (Hint: when you win, you gain very little, but when you lose you lose a lot).

[Jeff_B]

why post it if its a guaranteed winner? now we will all do it and once the casinos are bankrupt it will be over.

I call dips on caesars palace and the bellagio

[pzhon]

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simply follow last numbers that came out, and sooner or later you'll hit a winner.
let's here what you have to say about it...

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Betting on -EV games doesn't work, since you can't add negative numbers to get a positive number. This should be obvious, even if you complicate the system so that you aren't sure exactly how much you are losing.

The average amount you lose by playing this system once is 2 units. The average amount you wager is 38 units. Unsurprisingly, this system is useless.

It would be better if there were an FAQ that would explain why betting systems don't work, so that when people post anyway, they can be directed to the FAQ.

[yellowjack]

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simply follow last numbers that came out, and sooner or later you'll hit a winner.
let's here what you have to say about it...

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Betting on -EV games doesn't work, since you can't add negative numbers to get a positive number. This should be obvious, even if you complicate the system so that you aren't sure exactly how much you are losing.

The average amount you lose by playing this system once is 2 units. The average amount you wager is 38 units. Unsurprisingly, this system is useless.

It would be better if there were an FAQ that would explain why betting systems don't work, so that when people post anyway, they can be directed to the FAQ.

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Would you be willing ot make a FAQ of common topics in probability? If not you, then hopefully AaronBrown or BruceZ.

Some common topics off the top of my head:

Martingale System
Risk of Ruin
Chances of a Particular Hand/Flop/etc.

[pzhon]

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It would be better if there were an FAQ that would explain why betting systems don't work, so that when people post anyway, they can be directed to the FAQ.

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Would you be willing ot make a FAQ of common topics in probability?

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See this past thread.