is there wiggle room to allow individual states to operate online site

[phantomlimb]

According to the BBC Native Americans requested an exemption and it was voted not to exempt native american on the grounds they would have a monopoly in the US on internet gambling.

[FortunaMaximus]

<sighs> Very neat piece of legislation then. Ugh. Thanks.

[mlagoo]

all,

the reason there is that piece of language about intra-state gambling (IE, a gambling website run inside of a state that only allows members of that state to participate) is that its no longer in the purview of the fed gov't to regulate it. it's no longer interstate commerce.

so, in short, yes, NYPOKER.com is viable. it's just, it would be a pretty freakin tiny site.

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

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all,

the reason there is that piece of language about intra-state gambling (IE, a gambling website run inside of a state that only allows members of that state to participate) is that its no longer in the purview of the fed gov't to regulate it. it's no longer interstate commerce.

so, in short, yes, NYPOKER.com is viable. it's just, it would be a pretty freakin tiny site.

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I disagree. If you have state-run sites that are completely 100% legal, and take essentially all the poker traffic from those states and consolidated them into just one site (or a handful of state-licensed sites) then I think that would become a very viable place to play poker, at least in a large state like NY or CA. This legislation is fairly carefully crafted to protect this possibility, so it's a question of whether these states will recognize the revenue potentail and move to legalize them.

[dingying]

how about a state legalizing playing poker intra state AND between the state and foreign countries? there is no interstate involved.

[BluffTHIS!]

Nate,

Plus mlagoo is missing is that if even a smaller state legalized online poker for its citizens, it would then be positively legal instead of the former quasi state we have had, plus it could be advertised in all media in that state just as with any legal business. So that combination could easily equal more players post such legalization than now, even if their player pool was smaller than what we currently enjoy.

And from my reading of the language, there is nothing to prevent say poker stars from getting such a license in a legalized state and running their site on a server in that state.

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

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Nate,

Plus mlagoo is missing is that if even a smaller state legalized online poker for its citizens, it would then be positively legal instead of the former quasi state we have had, plus it could be advertised in all media in that state just as with any legal business. So that combination could easily equal more players post such legalization than now, even if their player pool was smaller than what we currently enjoy.

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Correct. It's not just that these states get to consolidate their existing poker traffic, but also that they get to build a lot of new traffic.

[mlagoo]

alright, well i strongly disagree that there is enough (potential) traffic in any individual state, apart from MAYBE NY and CA, to sustain a poker site worth going to. we'll just have to wait and see.

edit: regardless, i think it's fair to say that if our best alternative becomes playing intrastate online poker, this legislation will have been devestatingly successful.

[MicroBob]

BLUFF - Found this thread. Thanks.

I think NYPoker or CalifPoker.com could be pretty big sites.

If it's LEGAL then they can advertise all they want and advertise that it's poker for REAL MONEY and that you can win a trip to the WSOP, etc etc.
You can win WADS of CASH!!!!

Big advantage over the current TV campaigns in the US where they can just advertise for their 'learn to play' sites.



"Thus if my anlysis is correct, then a state could license poker stars to run a cardroom for members of its state only."


Bluff - If PokerStars continues to try to accept American business then I doubt they would be allowed a license by any state to operate in any specific state.
If they are breaking the U.S. law then surely California wouldn't be able to allow them I would think.


It would be more likely that an American corp like Harrah's would start WSOP.com in any state they could, wouldn't it?


I would hope that there's a good chance of such a state-licenses poker-site happening in California.
I really don't want to move to North Dakota!!


I'm increasingly optimistic about the possibilities here.

[Buzz-cp]

I wonder if it's within California law & this Federal Act for a CA poker site to have international gamblors on their site. This would increase game selection & softness.