The $1 Billion Dollar - 700 Mile fence on the Mexican Border and more

[tomdemaine]

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Why HAVE a border?

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Very good question.

[morphball]

Your silly little wall will not stop drugs. Criminal background checks from the third-world...lol

[Superfluous Man]

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What's so bad about letting illegal aliens work?

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HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR DEEY TOOK UR JERBS!

Here's a good article on the effect of removing so-called "illegals" (labeling a person as "illegal" for simply crossing the border makes me cringe): Stillmore.

It's a nice refutation to those racists who claim that there's some sort of job shortage and that immigration somehow harms the economy.

[bkholdem]

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This issue is very, very big here in Arizona. There is a literal flood of border crossings. Nobody knows how many or their backgrounds. Suppose the number is 1,000,000/year which is pretty conservative
Wiki . If they were all massed on the border and were going to cross on Jan. 1st would you propose doing something about it? I do. If we need/want the immigrants that is fine with me but what's going on now is ridiculous. I'd spend whatever it took on a wall. Once the flood is stopped a sane immigration policy can be worked out.

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Wouldn't it just be much easier to impose criminal sanctions and extremely high fines on companies that hire illegal immigrants, so as to make it economically unfeasible for companies to hire people without being damned sure they are legally alowed to work?

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Something like that was tried 20 years ago. Some would say it wasn't tough enough. OK. Try it again and re-visit the issue in another 20 years.

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If businesses are fined the costs get passed on to the customers so in effect it is a tax on citizens.

[bkholdem]

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Here's how it will work.
They build the fence and please their xenophobic supporters.
Then they please big business with a very generous immigration policy that lets everyone anyway.
And they make some contractors happy too.

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plus they get to tax the bejezes out of us and bloat the govt even more.

[bkholdem]

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Here's how it will work.
They build the fence and please their xenophobic supporters.
Then they please big business with a very generous immigration policy that lets everyone anyway.
And they make some contractors happy too.

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Right away with the 'xenophobic'.

If we need many immigrants let in then it's fine with me. I'd like to know who they are, though. I'd like to check for criminal backgrounds and for communicable diseases for starters. As it is we have an unknown horde crossing the border. Why HAVE a border? A fence will stop the great majority of them.

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so you need an imigration policy that allows poor people who want to work and not just wealthy people or college students/graduates.

[bkholdem]

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Did you show driver's license? Some places don't count that as proof of citizenship.

The 2nd sentence in your 3rd paragraph says it all:

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This seems like a plan that will look to voters like they're doing something while wasting billions that will not work.

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well we won the war on drugs after spending trillions on that so we might as well do this too as we have a good track record of success...

[ed8383]

I read that they are also considering strip searches in schools. So while children get stripsearched, grandma is getting searched at the airport, and our rights and liberties are being taken away, the borders of america are wide open for any terrorist to come accross.

funny or sad, you decide.

[Copernicus]

labeling a person as "illegal" for simply crossing the border illegally makes me cringe

FYP

[RainDog]

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