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See this. 28 19.05%
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:15 PM
thedustbustr thedustbustr is offline
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Default Re: Party Blackjack - kickass Promo

there is no excuse for not following a card when trying to make money here. wizardofodds.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:15 PM
thedustbustr thedustbustr is offline
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Default Re: Party Blackjack - kickass Promo

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is there a strategy sheet anyone here can reccomend/link to maximize ev on this?

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Just follow the dealer strategy. Hit on less than 16, and stand on 17 or higher. You won't be giving up too much.

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its a lot better than doing it by instinct, but a card is better. esp when betting 200$ units.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:16 PM
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how did you calculate the player edge given these rules?

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I guessed.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: Party Blackjack - kickass Promo

Wtf is the dealer strategy? If it involves hitting a 12 when the dealer shows 5 or a 6 it cant be that great.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: Party Blackjack - kickass Promo

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is there a strategy sheet anyone here can reccomend/link to maximize ev on this?

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Just follow the dealer strategy. Hit on less than 16, and stand on 17 or higher. You won't be giving up too much.

[/ QUOTE ]that can't be optimal strategy.

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its a lot better than doing it by instinct, but a card is better. esp when betting 200$ units.

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It's actually quite a lot worse than doing it by instinct, unless your instincts are really terrible.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: Party Blackjack - kickass Promo

Btw, does anybody feel by instinct that standing with TT is good vs a dealers 6? I can just never understand that.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: Party Blackjack - kickass Promo

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is there a strategy sheet anyone here can reccomend/link to maximize ev on this?

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Just follow the dealer strategy. Hit on less than 16, and stand on 17 or higher. You won't be giving up too much.

[/ QUOTE ]that can't be optimal strategy.

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its a lot better than doing it by instinct, but a card is better. esp when betting 200$ units.

[/ QUOTE ]if you had only a $30k roll would u be willing to bet so much?
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Party Blackjack - kickass Promo

i would bet 200 per hand on a 30k roll for sure.

200*50=10k. 95% chance of not losing more than 10k. EV is 2k.

i have a 6k roll, i'll be doing $50 bets for sure.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Party Blackjack - kickass Promo

Sorry, I should have posted some of this earlier in anticipation of a glut of questions.

Q: <blah blah blah blah> gambling question <blah blah>
A: Wizardofodds.com almost certainly has the answer

Q: Which game does this promo apply to?
A: According to party, it is their Blackjack-Single Player game with a max bet of $200. Their terms explicity exclude thier Blackjack - High Limit game. I have no idea if Blackjack - Single Deck or Blackjack - Multi player apply.

Q: Strategy Card for Party blackjack?
A: Party uses 8 decks. Resplit up to 4 hands. Double after Split (DAS). Double on Anything (DOA). Hit on Soft 17 (H17). Late surrender allowed. Use the right hand card at

http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/strategy/4deck.html

If you can't interpret this card, do not participate in this promo. You will probably lose money and whine about it later

Q: How'd you calculate the house advantage of party's game without the 2:1 promo?
A: http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/ho...alculator.html

Q: How'd you calculate the player advantage that the 2:1 promo adds?
A: http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack

Q: What is my EV of this promo
A: 1.71% * number of hands you play * amount wagered per hand

For 600 hands an hour, this is about 10 units. So if you bet $100 a hand, you can expect to earn $1,000

Q: What is the chance of me losing $x
A: From an earlier post
65% chance of finishing between -19.1 units and +39.7
95% chance of finishing between -48.5 and +69.1
99.7% chance of finishing between -77.9 and +98.5

ie ... this promo isn't for the risk averse.

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Old 09-18-2006, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Party Blackjack - kickass Promo

party rigged this promo to run during my classes and force me to take a zero on a quiz.

Party could show up to my door and hand me 5k and I will still find a way to hate them because this is what they are doing right now.
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