Im torn on this hand

AScorz · #1 09-02-2006, 03:29 PM

Im thinking folding was correct here.

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UTG+2 ($25.25)
MP1 ($32.19)
Hero ($70.50)
MP3 ($22.50)
CO ($48.50)
Button ($60.02)
SB ($18.20)
BB ($101.63)
UTG ($50.90)
UTG+1 ($36.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG raises to $3, 3 folds, Hero calls $3, 5 folds.

Flop: ($6.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $10, UTG calls $6.

Turn: ($26.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $15, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $41.75

kslghost · #2 09-02-2006, 03:58 PM

I think you're crazy... I'm all in all day.

AScorz · #3 09-02-2006, 04:06 PM

He represented AA and KK since Preflop. I'm pretty sure I was beat even against a unknown

kslghost · #4 09-02-2006, 04:09 PM

He represented almost anything. You are searching for monsters. If you posted his stats, that would help too. Or I'm guessing he is unknown. And btw, reraise preflop. Playing QQ for set value sucks against a single raise. He is on anything from 22-AA to A7...

BTW, I don't think you have to push turn, but you aren't folding. I prefer pushing as he isn't folding a lot of hands.

AScorz · #5 09-02-2006, 04:14 PM

Him being an unknown I figured folding was on the edge of right and wrong. I was simply trying to make the cheapest mistake against him. Is this the wrong type of thinking for this hand?

ZingyDNA · #6 09-02-2006, 08:33 PM

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He represented AA and KK since Preflop. I'm pretty sure I was beat even against a unknown

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] what about JJ-22??

PoppaTMan · #7 09-02-2006, 09:45 PM

After just flat calling his PFR, you've underrepresented your hand enough that you're almost obligated to get it all in here against all but the nittiest of villains.

SaiYeN · #8 09-02-2006, 10:02 PM

i'd just like to say that your flop raise is completely aweful since you did it to find out if he has AA/KK. It's a WA/WB situation (where you are mostly WA), the only reason to raise in this spot is for value. Raising and then finding a fold later is aweful unless you have a very good read in which case the more +EV line would be to call and reevualate later.

jaxUp · #9 09-02-2006, 04:08 PM

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Im thinking folding was correct here.

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Hmm, this is not a real easy spot to be, but I think I can't get away from this one. I'm curious to see what people think though. He almost certainly has a full house, how high his pair is is beyond me. I think his range includes probably 88-AA and he could have played them all this way.

If you decide to continue, I do not like pushing the turn. He may get scared and fold some of his very lowest holdings and if it means we can get his whole stack then I don't mind letting him draw to 2 outs.

TKWest · #10 09-02-2006, 04:17 PM

This is a tough one. Kind of hand you lose sleep over.

A reraise pre-flop might have helped define the strength of your hand. A few bucks spent there might have saved you some money later.