Songs that made you realize your favorite band was going downhill

[A_C_Slater]

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Why do people always say that about Metallica? Their songs from post-Black Album era are objectively better than before. Stop trying to be cool by saying newer Metallica sucks; god forbid a band should develop musically beyond speed metal that all sounds the same.

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Wow. You're the first human being I've ever heard with that opinion. I knew Metallica turned into a bunch of hacks when I first heard "Fuel."

Just contrast and compare the lyrics to something like "Creeping Death."

Slaves
Hebrews born to serve, to the pharaoh
Heed
To his every word, live in fear
Faith
Of the unknown one, the deliverer
Wait
Something must be done, four hundred years

So let it be written
So let it be done
I'm sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To kill the first born pharaoh son
I'm creeping death

Now
Let my people go, land of Goshen
Go
I will be with thee, bush of fire
Blood
Running red and strong down the nile
Plague
Darkness three days long, hail to fire

So let it be written
So let it be done
I'm sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To kill the first born pharaoh son
I'm creeping death

Die by my hand
I creep across the land
Killing first-born man
Die by my hand
I creep across the land
Killing first-born man

I
Rule the midnight air, the destroyer
Born
I shall soon be there, deadly mass
I
Creep the steps and floor, final darkness
Blood
Lambs blood painted door, I shall pass

So let it be written
So let it be done
I'm sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To kill the first born pharaoh son
I'm creeping death



This [censored] song makes me wanna kill [censored] babies that will grow up to become tyrants. Now contrast that to "Fuel" from the Load Album

Gimme fuel
Gimme fire
Gimme that which I desire

Turn on, I see red
Adrenaline crash and crack my head
Nitro junkie, paint me dead
And I see red

One hundred plus through black and white
War horse
War head
[censored] em, man
White knuckle tight
Through black and white

Oh, on I burn
Fuel is pumping engines
Burning hard
Loose and clean

Oh, and on I burn
Turning my direction
Quench my thirst with gasoline

So gimme fuel
Gimme fire
Gimme that which I desire

Turn on beyond the bone
Swallow future, spit out hope
Burn your face upon the chrome

Take the corner, join the crash
Headlights, head on
Another junkie lives too fast

Yeah
Lives way too fast, fast, fast, fast, fast

Oh, on I burn
Fuel is pumping engines
Burning hard, loose and clean

Oh, and on I burn
Turning my direction
Quench my thirst with gasoline

So gimme fuel
Gimme fire
Gimme that which I desire

Oh
Gimme fuel
Gimme fire
My desire

Oh, on I burn
Fuel is pumping engines
Burning hard, loose and clean

On I burn
Turning my direction
Quench my thirst with gasoline

Gimme fuel
Gimme fire
Gimme that which I desire

On I burn [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]



This song makes want to bomb a theatre full of people watching 'Fast and the Furious' but not because the song kicks ass, simply because the theatre might be full of people that like songs like this one.

[7ontheline]

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Why do people always say that about Metallica? Their songs from post-Black Album era are objectively better than before. Stop trying to be cool by saying newer Metallica sucks; god forbid a band should develop musically beyond speed metal that all sounds the same.

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How is it "cool" to say new Metallica isn't as good? Who would we be trying to impress, exactly? Personally, I think even the Black album was the beginning of the downhill slide for Metallica, although it's not the boring pile of crap all the later albums are.

Also, I wasn't aware there were objective criteria for measuring music, especially heavy metal. Subjectively, I think they used to rock. Now I think they sound like most other crappy metal bands. If you disagree, fine. You don't really fit the criteria of this thread, since you think they're still good.

[A_C_Slater]

I think that "Unforgiven" and "Sad but true" are both powerful songs from the Black Album. They may not be as fast as the earlier songs, but they have the same element of heaviness as the first 3 albums.

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The Joshua Tree was good but I could totally tell what direction U2 was going after that and I didn't like it.

Ramones, Bonzo Goes to Bittburg was a cool song, but a similar feeling of doom followed it around.

Green Day, Good Riddance (Time of Your Life). Downhill big time.

Prince, Raspberry Beret. Duh.

[7ontheline]

Not all the Black album was bad by any means, but I thought it showed signs of the band slipping.

[private joker]

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REM - Shiny Happy People


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WTF? That's a crap song for sure, but downhill? Yeah, you're right -- following that up with AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE is a real step down. ROFL, etc.

[Los Feliz Slim]

Phish, Sample in a Jar

[TheDudeAbides]

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Phish, Sample in a Jar

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I assume you mean the studio version. Phish has lots of tunes that pretty much bite in the studio, but really open up live. I think this is one of them. Crappy as a four-minute polished tune. But unbelievable as a first-set closer. Especially with the lights.

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Dave Matthews Band - I Did it


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Hoo boy. This song made me sad.

Growing up as a Rush fan, I was originally going to say The Big Money, but there were a few other good songs on that album, so I'll say Force Ten instead.

[kidcolin]

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REM - Shiny Happy People


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WTF? That's a crap song for sure, but downhill? Yeah, you're right -- following that up with AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE is a real step down. ROFL, etc.

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When I read the thread title, I knew REM would be my pick. But I had a much later song in mind. I think Out of Time is perhaps their best album (to me, anyway), even if shiny happy people ain't that great. And of course joker is right about AFTP.

For me it's either Daysleeper or Imitation of Life. Probably the latter, as I like New Adventures and UP a lot.