Pocket 4's in BB, flopped set

[Langerz]

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we want to at least try protect our set against a variety of gutshot straight draws out there that threaten our hand

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Protecting our set? That is one bizare case of MUBS IMO.

If you are only using the cr to build a pot with hands better than a set you are missing out.

[Langerz]

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Horrendous.

Not capping that river is a crime.

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Can we have some more explanation?

If the villian is solid (and maybe I'm reading too much into that read, but I'm thinking 2+2 type player) what does he play this way that we beat?

Now that I typed that and thought a little I might be changing my mind. Assuming solid does mean a 2+2er then QQ and JJ are out since he'd 3 bet pf. AQs or KQs would be possibilities pf (I keep liking KQs as an option since the turn gives him an OESD). QJs is a possibility depending on the table, maybe QTs if is is really loose. There are more AQs/KQs available then QJs so maybe going nuts on the river is correct.

Actually after going through that it might be better to cap the river against a "solid" player since we take a few hands out of his range (QQ, JJ) that beat us. The more I look at the hand, the more I think this guy can't be 2+2 solid, so I think I'm still leaving QQ and JJ in his range.

[cold_cash]

I wouldn't cap the river.

I would 3-bet the turn though.