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08-16-2006, 07:44 PM
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throw in some moves he wanted but could not get done (Contreras, A Rod, etc) [/ QUOTE ] you cannot tell me that renteria is producing well this year because he's out of boston, then bring up a guy who had to be moved out of new york because he 'couldn't handle it', and another whose performance is said to be affected by getting booed all the time at home games. 
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08-16-2006, 08:27 PM
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i finally got around to reading this article. simmons is a good writer, but his baseball analysis is terrible and very overdramatic. if i looked, i could probably find 100 trades in the past 25 years that have hurt a team more than the soriano deal.
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08-16-2006, 08:29 PM
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i enjoy his writing also, i was just dissapointed that he pounced on the red sox like that. this ownership/GM combo is the best in red sox history (by a mile) and they get attacked for EVERYTHING.
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08-16-2006, 08:38 PM
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how do you know this? [/ QUOTE ] basic economics. once Renteria was signed, Cabrera became the #1 FA shortstop, and any deal he got was going to be compared to the Renteria deal. given that Cabrera wanted to stay, and the market for shortstops had not yet been set, my guess it that the Red Sox helped Cabrera get all the money he did. [ QUOTE ] lucky? in regards to what? matt clement and renteria of 05 negate whatever 'luck' it is you speak of. [/ QUOTE ] the failure to sign Contreras, which turned out to be a blessing. the failure to get the Arod deal done, which also turned out ok. the failure to sign Pavano, which turned out to be great. props to him for signing Ortiz, but there is no way he thought he would be that good. similar to the Pats drafting Brady in the 6th round - if either of those guys doesn't vastly vastly outperform their expectations, Boston has 0 titles instead of 4 this decade. you already mentioned the disaster of Clement. look, I like Theo. he's done a good job. but he was lucky when he failed to get Contreras and Pavano, made bad signings of Clement and Renteria, and has been saved by his brilliant/lucky signing of Ortiz. he's far from infallible.
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08-16-2006, 08:41 PM
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[ QUOTE ] throw in some moves he wanted but could not get done (Contreras, A Rod, etc) [/ QUOTE ] you cannot tell me that renteria is producing well this year because he's out of boston, then bring up a guy who had to be moved out of new york because he 'couldn't handle it', and another whose performance is said to be affected by getting booed all the time at home games. [/ QUOTE ] my point was that he was lucky in his failure to get those deals done.
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#27
08-16-2006, 08:54 PM
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i wouldnt consider NOT getting arod getting lucky. quite the opposite actually. [/ QUOTE ] ok, the arod one is close, depending of course on what the final terms would have been. the others were great 'no deals' or mistakes.
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08-16-2006, 09:08 PM
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Maybe I somehow missed all the times this was debated and discussed … but why hasn't more been made of the "Alfonso Soriano/Brad Wilkerson" trade? That has to go down as one of the five worst trades of the past 25 years, right? [/ QUOTE ] It was. For Texas. The fact that the Nationals got what they did out of Soriano doesn't make it an awful trade for the Rangers. [ QUOTE ] I can't take the A's seriously -- no home-field advantage, not a single dangerous bat, no Rich Harden, a 1-2 punch of starters (Zito and Haren) who seem to get shelled every three weeks (only their statistics don't reflect this for some reason), and a good bullpen that's helmed by the exceedingly hittable Huston Street (trust me, he's on my AL-only team; even when he's shaking hands after the save, you're still waiting for something bad to happen). [/ QUOTE ] 1) Haren and Zito get shelled but it doesn't reflect in the statistics...right. 2) Huston Street, 2.98 ERA, 56 K, 10 BB, 44 H, 4 HR over 57.3 IP. Right. Extremely hittable, indeed. Bill Simmons at his best, e.g., knows nothing about baseball.
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08-16-2006, 09:10 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] There's not a better sports writer working today. [/ QUOTE ] sure if you dont read the hardball times or baseball prospectus. [/ QUOTE ] I said sports writer, not nerd who writes for other nerds on some obscure baseball blogs. [/ QUOTE ] Awesome, apparently because these "nerds" know something about statistical analysis in addition to scouting information, they are not worth reading and apparently aren't sports writers. Did you know that former Baseball America writer and scouting/tools-lover Kevin Goldstein writes for Prospectus now? Did you know Prospectus incorporates a ton of scouting analysis in their data as of late? You're an idiot.
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#30
08-16-2006, 09:11 PM
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[ QUOTE ] i wouldnt consider NOT getting arod getting lucky. quite the opposite actually. [/ QUOTE ] ok, the arod one is close, depending of course on what the final terms would have been. the others were great 'no deals' or mistakes. [/ QUOTE ] If the deal is anything like the deal the Yankees got, then it's not close.
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