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#21
08-15-2006, 02:17 PM
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Re: KQ off
Can you please give the correct answer soon [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]?
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#23
08-15-2006, 02:57 PM
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Re: KQ off
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How about a radically crazy line...bet/call flop, bet/fold turn. -Jaran [/ QUOTE ] You donk the turn UI when he raises you on the flop? at .5/1? What do you do on the river when he calls your turn bet?
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#26
08-15-2006, 04:39 PM
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Re: KQ off
You say he is unknown, so lets say that he is generally a TAG, a LP or a LAG.
A TAG's 3-betting range is AK, AQ (maybe), TT, JJ QQ, KK, and AA. The only hands you beat here are TT and JJ. SO he is ahead with a LOT more hands than he is behind. A LP's 3-betting range is even more narrow so we are behind even more. The only way you are likely to have the best hand here is if villain is a LAG, and even then it is shaky because he raises with a lot more aces. Basically this means you are beind almost every hand vs almost every opponent except MAYBE a LAG. I think you have the odds to peel one on the flop, but even if you improve i wouldn't get too aggressive because the same hands that improve you improve his range. Definite fold on the turn UI. 3-beting ranges are pretty narrow, and if you are aginst a villain who 3-bets crap you will have a read within the first orbit so you will know next time. C/R is ridiculous, and IMO calling down is a mistake too in this spot.
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#27
08-15-2006, 05:20 PM
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Re: KQ off
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[ QUOTE ] How about a radically crazy line...bet/call flop, bet/fold turn. -Jaran [/ QUOTE ] You donk the turn UI when he raises you on the flop? at .5/1? What do you do on the river when he calls your turn bet? [/ QUOTE ] I most likely wouldn't use this line without an overaggro pf/flop read. But, just to get the thoughts flowing, how many times have we seen a hand on this board where someone raises JJ after a couple of limpers, gets bet into on an Ahigh or Khigh flop, and about half of the responses suggest a riase? (yeah, I know this is a different scenario) Personally, against an unknown, I think the best line is c/c, c/f. (Although this begs the question on the correct line on the river if villian cks behind on the turn). As to your question on what to do on the river if villian just calls the turn donk (sng!!!), I would plan on a bet/fold again. -Jaran
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#29
08-15-2006, 05:42 PM
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Re: KQ off
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villan is 3 betting : TT JJ QQ KK AA AQ AQs AK AKs QQ KK AA AQ AQs AK AKs continue to bet till river (KK will check behind on river) leaving us ahead of 2 hands behind 7 c/c c/f [/ QUOTE ] Way to put some evidence behind it.
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