its been a while - checkup

[Buckmulligan]

One thing no one is considering here is the fact that we're probably drawing to a split or very few outs a percentage of the time that isn't negatable. AK, KK, AA are obviously pretty alive in villain one's hand range.

That's the reason I said that if I call the flop, I would consider also calling the turn, and then also calling the river.

If villain one is respectable, his hand range really starts skewing toward the AA,KK,AK combos and way from the TT,JJ,AQ combos if he bets the flop and is called twice. I'm not sure we'd have the equity to raise on that turn.

[car ramrod]

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If villain one is respectable, his hand range really starts skewing toward the AA,KK,AK combos and way from the TT,JJ,AQ combos if he bets the flop and is called twice. I'm not sure we'd have the equity to raise on that turn.

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good point, probably a good reason to raise the flop. I think that is probably best after thinking about it more. It's a big pot, and the other villian makes this a lot clearer flop raise. I just run bad and when I make a hand everyone always folds, so I second guess myself. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Good to see some discussion though.