Hollywood Park - Floor in game

[Dangeresque]

Yeah, in Edmonton, one company owns two casinos, their employees can't play at either one.

[TMTTR]

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One last note about this particular floor manager. I had a chat with him the other day. It turns out the if the game isn't going, he starts it. If it looks like it is going short, he sits in to keep it going. In essence, he's actually responsible for a juicy 25-50 stud game spread on a regular basis at Hollywood park. He'll do the same for the 20-40 stud8 and the 40-80 mixed stud8/Omaha8.

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My personal opinion is that it is just bad policy to play where you manage. This is even worse than dealers playing where they deal.

My buddy lost the hand and surely would not have complained if he had won -- but the manager here had been watching and bullsh!ting with the table all night. On a pure poker level, he had the opportunity to watch the new player (my buddy may have been the only one) and learn how he played without actually playing himself.

Suffice it to say that if this incident had not happened, we would have stayed longer and likely returned to play at Hollywood Park later in the trip. Because of this incident, we stuck to Commerce.

[Rick Nebiolo]

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One last note about this particular floor manager. I had a chat with him the other day. It turns out the if the game isn't going, he starts it. If it looks like it is going short, he sits in to keep it going. In essence, he's actually responsible for a juicy 25-50 stud game spread on a regular basis at Hollywood park. He'll do the same for the 20-40 stud8 and the 40-80 mixed stud8/Omaha8.

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Is this thread still alive?

My personal opinion is that it is just bad policy to play where you manage. This is even worse than dealers playing where they deal.

My buddy lost the hand and surely would not have complained if he had won -- but the manager here had been watching and bullsh!ting with the table all night. On a pure poker level, he had the opportunity to watch the new player (my buddy may have been the only one) and learn how he played without actually playing himself.

Suffice it to say that if this incident had not happened, we would have stayed longer and likely returned to play at Hollywood Park later in the trip. Because of this incident, we stuck to Commerce.

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If the manager is the one who is described as quoted above, managing an occasional shift is only one of his duties. His primary responsibilities are in fact that of the top section host, and most of his time involves playing in and starting the bigger stud and mix games. He does start short games and keeps them going in bad spots, spots were many would not want to play.

Of course I can see where this won't look right to someone from out of town, but the California card clubs are primarily built on regulars who know the staff. They are certainly used to playing with this gentlemen.

Regarding playing with pure managers, at one club a game is actually built around the play of one of the top managers. He is "good action" to put it mildly. And of course most Los Angeles players love to play against dealers; show me a game with many off-duty dealers and I'll show you a good game.

That said, to the extent the Commerce uses hosts in the big games, I don't believe they pull "double duty" as suit and tie managers (although at least one has considerable authority). This may work in Commerce's favor from the viewpoint of someone visiting the club for the first time.

Regards,

Rick