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Old 07-18-2006, 01:56 PM
ckmc333 ckmc333 is offline
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Default Re: Happy to get it in here, or a hand to get away from?

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what exactly are sklansky bucks?

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David Sklansky author of The Theory of Poker and Hold'Em Poker for Advanced Players (both dull but important books) would advocate a push here because it seems to have the greatest +EV. Sklansky bucks are a form of "making the right play all the time for +EV" (ie TOP/FTO) imaginary currency which when built up over time begins to effect your bankroll in a positive way. Therefore, in the end, a Sklansky buck earned, is a real buck saved (it just takes 10K hands to cash them in).
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:05 PM
Ben Young Ben Young is offline
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Default Re: Happy to get it in here, or a hand to get away from?

thanks!
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:53 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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smooth,

the other reason to push now is to protect your hand vs a FD

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The fd is very obvious. What... I am not sure how to respond....This was factored in a long time ago.

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I don't get your point.

You said the flush draw was factored in long ago, but then when you said that the reason you think pushing is more +EV than calling, was b/c of stack sizes. You didn't mention protecting your hand at all.

Of cource its obvious one or both of them might well have a FD, but you haven't (that I can see) factored that into you decision making at all.

If you decide that flop is a call or push, and that you're basically getting it in on any non-diamond turn, then surely its best to push flop not b/c of stack sizes, but b/c every time we just call flop and a diamond hits on the turn, we've just lost hte pot, and made a big FTOP error as well.
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