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#22
06-05-2006, 03:46 PM
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Re: AQs headsup against a TAG reraise
I would checkraise the flop for two reasons. First we aren't wa/wb anymore as there is a very live draw hanging around. He;ll check the turn behind a lot as well so we kind of need the innitiative.
Also, a lot of the smaller PPs that we might worry about folding by raising no longer fold, either because our hand range is extended once we raise because of the draw heavy board and because he himself may have a spade with which to draw. 
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#23
06-05-2006, 04:32 PM
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Re: AQs headsup against a TAG reraise
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[ QUOTE ] Villain ended up having TT with the Ts. Doc [/ QUOTE ] Either you have a strange table-image or your TAG isn't as TAG as you think. [/ QUOTE ] do you seriously think he should play his hand any differently before the river where he should value bet?
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#24
06-05-2006, 04:36 PM
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Re: AQs headsup against a TAG reraise
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Villain ended up having TT with the Ts. Doc [/ QUOTE ] Either you have a strange table-image or your TAG isn't as TAG as you think. [/ QUOTE ] do you seriously think he should play his hand any differently before the river where he should value bet? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah the villian played this hand great until the river. Raising the turn is awful as it just lets you get away from hands like AQ with no [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. The river check is piss poor by him though.
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#25
06-05-2006, 04:39 PM
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Re: AQs headsup against a TAG reraise
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Villain ended up having TT with the Ts. Doc [/ QUOTE ] Either you have a strange table-image or your TAG isn't as TAG as you think. [/ QUOTE ] do you seriously think he should play his hand any differently before the river where he should value bet? [/ QUOTE ] Whoa! Where did I say that? (In fact, my first response says that the river should be bet/fold.) Oh, wait, you mean Villan! The missing river value-bet was my point: it's a peculiar line for a "definite TAG" to take on the river.
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#26
06-05-2006, 04:49 PM
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Re: AQs headsup against a TAG reraise
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I'm actually quite surprised that Vill didn't fold his T-high flush. [/ QUOTE ] i was addressing this statement more than the one i actually quoted
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#27
06-05-2006, 05:00 PM
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Re: AQs headsup against a TAG reraise
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[ QUOTE ] I'm actually quite surprised that Vill didn't fold his T-high flush. [/ QUOTE ] i was addressing this statement more than the one i actually quoted [/ QUOTE ] Oh, yeah. Put the two statements together, and they make a little more sense, to-wit: if Vill is TAG, he should be value-betting this river when checked to; since he didn't value-bet the river, I suspect he's closer to wTAP; if he's wTAP, I'm surprised he didn't fold his ten-high flush when bet into on the turn, and had Hero bet into him again on the river (as I advocated), I betcha he would have folded. See?
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#28
06-05-2006, 05:13 PM
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Re: AQs headsup against a TAG reraise
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OP- Oh, good. You're the guy who has been inexplicably donking flops into me after I three bet preflop and you hit your hand [/ QUOTE ] OP is ahead of a 3 betting range of TT+, AKs, AKo. you may have been joking a bit in your post instead of criticizing, but I wanted to point this out. He's about dead even with JJ+, AK. When not on a monotone flop AQ is a lot further ahead here. I guess a lot depends on what definite TAG means for a 3 betting range.
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#29
06-05-2006, 05:59 PM
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Re: AQs headsup against a TAG reraise
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm actually quite surprised that Vill didn't fold his T-high flush. [/ QUOTE ] i was addressing this statement more than the one i actually quoted [/ QUOTE ] Oh, yeah. Put the two statements together, and they make a little more sense, to-wit: if Vill is TAG, he should be value-betting this river when checked to; since he didn't value-bet the river, I suspect he's closer to wTAP; if he's wTAP, I'm surprised he didn't fold his ten-high flush when bet into on the turn, and had Hero bet into him again on the river (as I advocated), I betcha he would have folded. See? [/ QUOTE ] You are probably right. That was based on my PT numbers and he was a TA but that was a small sample of only about 60+ hands. The only other hand I had with him was in a blind steal situation. I raised with Q10s in CO, we ended up heads up, and he called me down from the SB with QJ when the flop came Qxx.
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#30
06-05-2006, 06:03 PM
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Re: AQs headsup against a TAG reraise
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OP- Oh, good. You're the guy who has been inexplicably donking flops into me after I three bet preflop. [/ QUOTE ] No, even though I did it with this hand, I don't make it a habit of donking into preflop 3-betters. Doc
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