Vent: Can one attract good Karma or no?

[LeapFrog]

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As for controlling RNG's, good luck with that.


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While I do not believe in karma or luck, I have heard that there were experiments conducted that supposedly showed a statistically significant bias in RNG when volunteers attempted to alter the outcome. My guess is this is what OP was referring to.

My recollection of this is very hazy but I did read this somewhere (New Scientist?). Essentially volunteers were told a computer was 'coin flipping' and they attempted to skew the results through thought alone. Apparently distance was not a factor as volunteers were able to have an effect on systems on the other side of the planet.

I will do some digging on the subject over the next few days and see if I can find any links.

[Sephus]

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While I do not believe in karma or luck, I have heard that there were experiments conducted that supposedly showed a statistically significant bias in RNG when volunteers attempted to alter the outcome. My guess is this is what OP was referring to.

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maybe there are many similar unpublished studies that showed no significant difference.

maybe the studies are flukes.

either seems more likely to me than there being a real cause and effect relationship at work.

i mean, has anyone even tried to explain what's going on in terms of the physical world if the people really are affecting the RNGs?

[LeapFrog]

Not even saying I buy it (as in the study is reproducible, scientists agree on the results, etc) just reporting what I read.

Hopefully I can find some links. Also I am not a crackpot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[[Phill]]

You could say Karma, like the concept of sin, is a primitive method of controlling the populace to make them do good things.

You could also say if you are a bad dude, you are more likely to be stabbed in the face down a dark alley.

Way i see it, as much as i am a dick in general, im a solid person to know and am pretty dependable as a mate. This means i know ive got a solid group of people who have my back. Extend this thinking to a universal rule of thumb and you have a solid working system which means i dont butcher hookers in motel bathtubs. Or something.

[ed8383]

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As for controlling RNG's, good luck with that.


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While I do not believe in karma or luck, I have heard that there were experiments conducted that supposedly showed a statistically significant bias in RNG when volunteers attempted to alter the outcome. My guess is this is what OP was referring to.

My recollection of this is very hazy but I did read this somewhere (New Scientist?). Essentially volunteers were told a computer was 'coin flipping' and they attempted to skew the results through thought alone. Apparently distance was not a factor as volunteers were able to have an effect on systems on the other side of the planet.

I will do some digging on the subject over the next few days and see if I can find any links.

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If thought really can control RNGs to achieve a positive/desired outcome, can thought also achieve the same but in life?

I guess my thread and its question are ahead of its time because we have not fully researched the brain and its capabilities enough, we do not fully understand it. We have read stories of rng manipulation, positive thinking/visualization, and even telepathy. There is something to this.

[LeapFrog]

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Not even saying I buy it (as in the study is reproducible, scientists agree on the results, etc) just reporting what I read.

Hopefully I can find some links. Also I am not a crackpot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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this is interesting

link: http://faculty.physics.tamu.edu/brya...ory.2ndrev.pdf

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There is further evidence that the human consciousness can affect
matter, this time data carefully amassed by Robert Jahn, Brenda Dunne,
Roger Nelson and their collaborators over a period of 12 years at the
Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) laboratory at Princeton
University (Jahn and Dunne, 1987), (Jahn et al., 1997). They looked to see
if some 91 anonymous, unpaid volunteers with no special abilities could, by
mental intent alone, alter a noisy diode's output which was being amplified
and clipped to produce a randomly alternating series of positive and
negative pulses. These were converted to 1s and 0s in sets usually of 200
numbers each; a typical set might look like 0 1 0 0 1 1 0, , , , , , , and so on for
the total of 200 1s and 0s. On the average, there should be 100 1s and 100 0s
in each set. In 839 800, sets, volunteers tried to increase the number of 1s,
and in 836 650, sets. they tried to increase the number of 0s. Although they
were only able to change about 1 number in 10 000, , when taken over the total
number of 1s and 0s, namely 335 290 000, , , the possibility that this difference
occurred by chance alone is less than 1 in 14 000, (Jahn et al., 1997)
(footnotes 6, 7, 8).
Others have also documented the abilities of certain subjects to
mentally affect physical systems. For example, Targ and Puthoff (1977)
report that the artist Ingo Swann was able to alter the cycling rate of a
highly shielded magnetometer in a laboratory at Stanford University. Also
Radin (1997) recounts how ten volunteers were able to alter the output of a
matrix of random-number generators that he had constructed with the help
of collaborators at Contel Technology Center (later merged with GTE).


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[kyleb]

Sigh.

When are you people going to learn that being nice doesn't do anything for you?

[[Phill]]

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Sigh.

When are you people going to learn that being nice doesn't do anything for you?

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According to your location you are "now canadian".

Time for an attitude adjustment to fit in.

[kyleb]

Screw that. I've met plenty of not-nice Canadians (my father, for example).

[Apathy]

You are jealous.

You have little confidence.

You are in a rut.

bad Karma dude.