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05-02-2007, 03:43 PM
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Re: Study sees racial bias in calling fouls
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you where as good at what you do as an NBA player is at basketball, you could probably wear whatever you wanted. I think they have earned the right to wear jeans and a throwback if they want to. [/ QUOTE ] That's fine, but that makes it a bad policy. It doesn't make the policy racist. [/ QUOTE ] I think their motives could possibly be racist. Do you think a major reason they did this was a desire to get rid of a hip hop image? [/ QUOTE ] Possibly but it still doesn't make it racist. [/ QUOTE ] Not sure i get your last point. I think dressing is heavily based on culture. What looks "professional" to people can vary greatly. People often wear different cloths depending on there background. When the British where in India they made Indian business men they worked with wear British style clothing even though they were used to their own style. That would clearly be racist right? 
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#22
05-02-2007, 03:56 PM
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why are 85% of the players black while most of the refs, and most of the coaches and executives white? [/ QUOTE ] Because running and jumping aren't correlated to making business decisions or even judging foul calls.
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05-02-2007, 04:00 PM
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Re: Study sees racial bias in calling fouls
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you where as good at what you do as an NBA player is at basketball, you could probably wear whatever you wanted. I think they have earned the right to wear jeans and a throwback if they want to. [/ QUOTE ] That's fine, but that makes it a bad policy. It doesn't make the policy racist. [/ QUOTE ] I think their motives could possibly be racist. Do you think a major reason they did this was a desire to get rid of a hip hop image? [/ QUOTE ] Possibly but it still doesn't make it racist. [/ QUOTE ]  Oh my! Now he's respectable! Which of these casual street clothes images do you think was the primary motivation for the dress code?   Granted, now they both have to wear suits so technically, its not racist in structure because it applies to everyone. NBA people have even used words like "urban" when talking about the image they are trying to get away from. Clearly this is aimed more at blacks than whites. With hip-hop and basketball so intertwined, this makes little sense to me. As for the person talking about your office job, how is that similar? It's not as if you wear one thing to work and then change clothes for a board meeting. Basketball players cannot wear basketball shoes on the way to a basketball game. This is just dumb.
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05-02-2007, 04:10 PM
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Granted, now they both have to wear suits so technically, its not racist in structure because it applies to everyone. NBA people have even used words like "urban" when talking about the image they are trying to get away from. Clearly this is aimed more at blacks than whites. With hip-hop and basketball so intertwined, this makes little sense to me. As for the person talking about your office job, how is that similar? It's not as if you wear one thing to work and then change clothes for a board meeting. Basketball players cannot wear basketball shoes on the way to a basketball game. This is just dumb. [/ QUOTE ] Dumb does not equal racist. The fact that most of the players are black also does not make it racist. Do you think there wouldn't be a dress code if 75% of basketball players looked like this? 
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05-02-2007, 04:25 PM
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Does anyone know which position most white guys play and which position gets called for the most fouls? Did the study consider this? [/ QUOTE ] It seems so. From Article: "To investigate whether such bias has existed in sports, Mr. Wolfers and Mr. Price examined data from publicly available box scores. They accounted for factors like the players’ positions, playing time and All-Star status; each group’s time on the court (black players played 83 percent of minutes, while 68 percent of officials were white); calls at home games and on the road; and other relevant data."
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#27
05-02-2007, 04:32 PM
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As for the person talking about your office job, how is that similar? It's not as if you wear one thing to work and then change clothes for a board meeting. [/ QUOTE ] Lots of professionals wear better clothes when they're in the public eye. E.g., a salesperson meeting a new client; a lawyer before a judge.
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#28
05-02-2007, 04:40 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Granted, now they both have to wear suits so technically, its not racist in structure because it applies to everyone. NBA people have even used words like "urban" when talking about the image they are trying to get away from. Clearly this is aimed more at blacks than whites. With hip-hop and basketball so intertwined, this makes little sense to me. As for the person talking about your office job, how is that similar? It's not as if you wear one thing to work and then change clothes for a board meeting. Basketball players cannot wear basketball shoes on the way to a basketball game. This is just dumb. [/ QUOTE ] Dumb does not equal racist. The fact that most of the players are black also does not make it racist. Do you think there wouldn't be a dress code if 75% of basketball players looked like this? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. And I would say that it is probably racist. If you replace the word racist with culturally biased would you agree? I am using racist in a broader term than you are because I am not sure i really know what a race is.
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05-02-2007, 04:47 PM
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Yes. And I would say that it is probably racist. If you replace the word racist with culturally biased would you agree? I am using racist in a broader term than you are because I am not sure i really know what a race is. [/ QUOTE ] So requiring anyone to adhere to a dress code is racism. Ok. Glad we cleared that up.
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#30
05-02-2007, 04:49 PM
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Re: Study sees racial bias in calling fouls
The dress code is a hijack from the study however...
Clearly the dress code became an issue due to players wearing too much "urban" aka (ghetto street thug) type attire and the NBA wanted to get away from that. But not because they "hate black people" but because they see it as bad for business. Just like if the problem was mullets and overalls they would have done the same. The NBA is a BUSINESS, they want to make money, they see the perception of the NBA as a bunch of street thug ballas as a problem and therefore they want to address it. If they thought they would make more money embracing "street" culture they would. Long story short, the only color that matters to the NBA is GREEN.
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