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Old 11-27-2007, 07:36 AM
ama0330 ama0330 is offline
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If this tilts you already, I love to have your sn on any pokersite.

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stop being a retard or I will ban you, and panic_nl, dont encourage him.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:37 AM
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it was a [censored] joke. calm down.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:39 AM
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sorry for that ama and thanks for youyr explanation, makes sense to me.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:41 AM
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sorry for that ama and thanks for youyr explanation, makes sense to me.

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You are welcome. The basic idea behind checking the flop is that you think he wont call a flop bet, but he will call a bet somewhere later on in the hand. The problem with this, especially in 3bet pots, is that the only way your opponent will check the flop then call the turn or river is when he catches his outs (which you gave him for free) to beat you. Better to pressure him into doing something dumb right now.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:15 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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the only reason to check the flop would be that he would bet with a wider range than he would call with. In other words he'd likely have to bet with all of his open-ender draws/middlepairs/underpairs to the Q/KQ/AQ/QJ. Since he bet like...I don't know wtf that is with his bet size, then I like the flop check less.

I would probably push the turn fearing how hard the river could be to play against him. He may also put you on a draw cause ur line is fishy and stackoff lightly.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:24 PM
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Absolutely bet this flop. It's too drawy to be giving free cards, and a Q is going nowhere. You can't be afraid of scaring away worse hands everytime you have a big hand yourself or you'll just win a small pot, or get outdrawn and lose a big one.
You also bet this flop because presumably you'll be betting it with AK when you DO want a fold.

As played on the turn, I hope you bet small to induce a raise, because I'm shoving over this all day. Your hand is criminally underepped, it looks like you are on a draw and villain may well call with a Q. If he flopped a set, gg him.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:40 PM
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First off, it's ok to take unorthodox lines sometimes against thinking opponents because we want to mix up our play. Having said that, you need to realize the second you c/c the flop you just pretty much committed yourself to this hand. Push the turn, call the turn. It really doesn't matter because the money's all going in the middle now anyway. Villain's range is so wide, you'll get raised a lot with air here because your line is so weird.
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