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#23
10-20-2007, 01:48 PM
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Re: Stars 320 vs Tsoprano
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[ QUOTE ] I would probably fold queens. [/ QUOTE ] qq is def a shove [/ QUOTE ] not sure about that. 
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10-20-2007, 03:34 PM
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Re: Stars 320 vs Tsoprano
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would probably fold queens. [/ QUOTE ] qq is def a shove [/ QUOTE ] not sure about that. [/ QUOTE ] regardless of how sure you are about it, QQ is a shove. as morello said, you need 40.35% equity to breakeven(temporarily ignoring the small % the other dude has QQ+,AK). QQ has ~47.4% equity vs JJ+,AK, and tsop is shoving JJ here every time.
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#26
10-20-2007, 05:27 PM
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Re: Stars 320 vs Tsoprano
JJ is definitely not an easy fold like some others have alluded to in this thread. We have 36% equity against a squeeky tight range of AK/QQ+. He will on occasion show up with a smaller pair or AQ type hand. Not a ton of the time or anything, but enough to swing our equity to about where it needs to be for a shove to be correct.
It's definitely not insane at all for villain to 3bet 99/TT here. Lots of dead money, decent equity against our opening range, etc. So yeah, JJ is a very close decision and that's not really debatable.
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#27
10-20-2007, 06:26 PM
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Re: Stars 320 vs Tsoprano
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would probably fold queens. [/ QUOTE ] qq is def a shove [/ QUOTE ] not sure about that. [/ QUOTE ] regardless of how sure you are about it, QQ is a shove. as morello said, you need 40.35% equity to breakeven(temporarily ignoring the small % the other dude has QQ+,AK). QQ has ~47.4% equity vs JJ+,AK, and tsop is shoving JJ here every time. [/ QUOTE ] thats the "temporarily" part that makes QQ very close.
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#28
10-20-2007, 06:29 PM
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Re: Stars 320 vs Tsoprano
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would probably fold queens. [/ QUOTE ] qq is def a shove [/ QUOTE ] not sure about that. [/ QUOTE ] regardless of how sure you are about it, QQ is a shove. as morello said, you need 40.35% equity to breakeven(temporarily ignoring the small % the other dude has QQ+,AK). QQ has ~47.4% equity vs JJ+,AK, and tsop is shoving JJ here every time. [/ QUOTE ] thats the "temporarily" part that makes QQ very close. [/ QUOTE ] the slight chance that he has QQ+ does not turn this into a close decision. it's unwise to assume that an unknown's range is super narrow.
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#29
10-20-2007, 07:21 PM
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Re: Stars 320 vs Tsoprano
sinse his stack is somewhat big the risk he has a huge hand is smaller, but he called an UTG raise UTG+1 so it cannot be ignored. I never said I assumed he had QQ+..
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#30
10-20-2007, 07:24 PM
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Re: Stars 320 vs Tsoprano
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sinse his stack is somewhat big the risk he has a huge hand is smaller, but he called an UTG raise UTG+1 so it cannot be ignored. I never said I assumed he had QQ+.. [/ QUOTE ] well to think QQ is close you'd have to think his flatting range is pretty narrow
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