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08-17-2007, 03:38 PM
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Re: 97 in the sb
I didn't read this thread the first time, but why does everyone love this hand so much? Preflop is a fold, flop lead is fine, but just about any line is fine with this hand on the flop.
On both turn and river, I don't feel we have a good enough read to not 3-bet. 
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#2
08-17-2007, 04:51 PM
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Re: 97 in the sb
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On both turn and river, I don't feel we have a good enough read to not 3-bet. [/ QUOTE ] BB is drawing to 2 outs, on the turn MP's raise looks like a chop or spew and at this level would be capable of folding the bottom of his range to a 3-bet. Calling + leading the river keeps the near-dead hands in the pot to keep calling single bets. On the river MP has quads or chopping or is really retarded.
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#4
08-17-2007, 06:15 PM
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Re: 97 in the sb
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[ QUOTE ] On both turn and river, I don't feel we have a good enough read to not 3-bet. [/ QUOTE ] The point is to get BB to overcall and chop his monies. [/ QUOTE ] DUCY?
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#6
08-17-2007, 06:27 PM
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Re: 97 in the sb
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[ QUOTE ] DUCY? [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, I'm a newb. What does this mean? [/ QUOTE ] i believe DUCY means "Do you see why?"
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#7
08-18-2007, 08:08 AM
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Re: 97 in the sb
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I didn't read this thread the first time, but why does everyone love this hand so much? Preflop is a fold, flop lead is fine, but just about any line is fine with this hand on the flop. On both turn and river, I don't feel we have a good enough read to not 3-bet. [/ QUOTE ] pf easy fold, ugh. Flop lead is super donkey IMO, I hate it.
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#8
08-18-2007, 08:25 AM
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Re: 97 in the sb
flop lead is not donkish at all, we want to give BB the opportunity to knock out MP, we gain more info by betting than by checking and we also don't run the risk to see the action get back to us for 2 cold when we could have the best hand
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#9
08-18-2007, 08:36 AM
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Re: 97 in the sb
I would argue that the flop donk here will give you way, way less info than a simple c/r or even c/c would. Lots of people hate these types of donks and will raise and keep firing with simple overcards because they hate to give up their lead while in position and hate to be bluffed and simply hate people who don't "respect" their PF action. Or maybe its just me.
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#10
08-18-2007, 09:29 AM
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Re: 97 in the sb
I would agree with you if it were a HU pot or if BB had merely called pre flop instead of 3-bet
but with this pre flop action I like a flop lead much better than a check
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