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Old 07-28-2007, 06:48 AM
KakiTee KakiTee is offline
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Default Re: annoying river spot 25/50

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fwiw I think he rarely has a ten here

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but does he think you'd check a T or a set on the turn with those stacks?

- dumping is easier
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: annoying river spot 25/50

Very annoying spot. I think its a chop about half the time here and you're beat the other half. I guess you have to fold.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: annoying river spot 25/50

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also, consider betting turn pls

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why?
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Old 07-28-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: annoying river spot 25/50

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also, consider betting turn pls

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why?

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as a bluff- to vary your play- because its often more +EV than checking - etc
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Old 07-28-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: annoying river spot 25/50

I'm sure you can find a better part of your range to fire the turn with than AJ here.
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:33 PM
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I'm sure you can find a better part of your range to fire the turn with than AJ here.

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I think you're wrong. Care to elaborate?
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: annoying river spot 25/50

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I'm sure you can find a better part of your range to fire the turn with than AJ here.

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I think you're wrong. Care to elaborate?

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well your basically turning your hand ino air, which it isn't. there really arent that many better hands that you are gonna get to fold. Plus you have outs against a T, which will certainly pay you off if you hit (well probably pay off)
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: annoying river spot 25/50

This is a fold. Your only other option is to raise, because you don't really beat anything, besides KJ which I don't really put him on here.
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: annoying river spot 25/50

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I'm sure you can find a better part of your range to fire the turn with than AJ here.

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I think you're wrong. Care to elaborate?

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well your basically turning your hand ino air, which it isn't. there really arent that many better hands that you are gonna get to fold. Plus you have outs against a T, which will certainly pay you off if you hit (well probably pay off)

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I think ur overestimating the value of ur hand and underestimating the value of a bet. Both hitting a 5 outer and villain having a ten is a pretty unlikely scenario, and our range is relatively narrow here. Just because we soert of have showdown value doesn't make this a check.. I think you should be betting here more often than checking

any other players at these stakes want to comment? im interested in opinions

also if villain is calling with a better 2 pair hand or something then hes just spewing
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: annoying river spot 25/50

bet the turn if you're not prepared for a tough river decision, then you can dictate that amount, and might get some better hands to fold
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