Strat Theory Post - light 3-better

[Redgrape]

lol i think its really bad not to make a shove on the flop in the 65 hands. I understand psychological factors but a shove looks better here.

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if you actually think this is his range 4bet shove 100 deep, anything else just 4bet a little more than pot and fold to AI (deep)

[ElPhoenix]

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Hey, I just wondered whats people thoughts on this situation. I think I play pretty bad in re raised pots and I am trying to sort that out so I am just running through a few thoughts. This is probably easy stuff though..

Say its folded round to you and you decided make a standard raise, then a tag/lagish re pops you. He has posistion on you and you know that his 3 betting range is pretty light. I.e somthing like 77+, A10+, KQs, 10Js, possibly 910,89s. first of all, regardless of your hand, how often do you think its correct to play back at them and make a 4-bet. do you think its too high varience to start 4betting/shoving with any 2 because you think he is weak? Or if your hand is above his range, does anyone call and try play pokerr. Or is this just bad play to be calling a 3bet OOP.

for example, its folded around to you in the cut off and you have AQ, you make a standard raise and the button 3 bets you. his range for 3 betting is somthing like yours,(like 77+, A10+, KQs, 10Js, possibly 910,89s maybe?) what % of time are people folding, calling, 4-betting?

Also how does your %'s change when you have posistion on him. say you open from cut off and he re pops from the SB. is calling best here?

thanks. sorry its tl;dr lol

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That range is not light. BTW, I 3bet you ALOT bc you always fold.

Yesterday, La Jolla sat at a table and had position on me. Son of a bitch kept three betting me. I called a few 3 bets with bascially any two and just played poker. I CRAI twice on the flop where he folded and you know.... he didn't 3 bet me again for the next hour. THATS RESPECT

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la jolla will own your soul, hands down, he's my poker buddy

[carrotsnake]

want me to post hands to prove otherwise [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[ElPhoenix]

amdendment - "your" does not apply to carrotsnake


but i own you, obviously

[MyironThumb]

he most definately hasn't owned me yet either FWIW [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[orange]

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if you actually think this is his range 4bet shove 100 deep, anything else just 4bet a little more than pot and fold to AI (deep)

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i think he should realize that once i make it 100, im pc-ing myself. also, 100 looks a bit more real than a shove, i think shoving = more bluffy. but thats jmo.