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Old 11-09-2007, 01:05 AM
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John Coleman is dead wrong; Religion is the "Biggest Scam in History", Mr. Coleman needs to get his facts straight.

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Old 11-09-2007, 01:43 AM
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Some consider that "Global Warming" is a religion and that Al Gore is our savior.
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:01 AM
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John Coleman is dead wrong; Religion is the "Biggest Scam in History", Mr. Coleman needs to get his facts straight.

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I don't understand the difference.
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:20 PM
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GW is a subset of religion
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:34 PM
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John Coleman is dead wrong; Religion is the "Biggest Scam in History", Mr. Coleman needs to get his facts straight.

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Old 11-09-2007, 10:13 AM
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You guys know "the Weather Channel Founder", John Coleman, is just a TV weatherman and not a climatologist, right?:

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-b...lobal_warming/

"I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril."


Well, I feel better already! A TV weather guy has "read dozens of papers", "studied", and "talked to numerous scientists" and he's sure there's no problem. I'm not sure why anyone even takes global warming seriously after this. After Al Roker announced his skepticism, I thought we'd be done with this debate, but now that the TV weather guy who dreamed up The Weather Channel has thrown in his two cents, I think we should pretty much forget about this nonsense now.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:29 AM
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Always a bad sign.
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:18 PM
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Weather Channel Founder calls Global Warming Biggest Scam in History

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You guys know "the Weather Channel Founder", John Coleman, is just a TV weatherman and not a climatologist, right?:

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-b...lobal_warming/

"I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril."


Well, I feel better already! A TV weather guy has "read dozens of papers", "studied", and "talked to numerous scientists" and he's sure there's no problem. I'm not sure why anyone even takes global warming seriously after this.

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"dozens of papers" should be a key indicator that this man is uneducated on the topic. I know at least four people that have read over 300 peer review journals and probably a 1,000 scholarly letters/posts on the topic even though it's not even their own field. I read/skim/review a minimum of a dozen papers a day in my own line of work.

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After Al Roker announced his skepticism, I thought we'd be done with this debate, but now that the TV weather guy who dreamed up The Weather Channel has thrown in his two cents, I think we should pretty much forget about this nonsense now.

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Looking at Rokers bio on his personal website it appears he only has a BA in communications. Under current standards set by the AMS he wouldn't be allowed to earn an AMS seal and be a TV weatherman due to a lack of a B.S. in a related field. Things are changing (very slowly) in the AMS which is long overdue IMO.
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:54 PM
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Looking at Rokers bio on his personal website it appears he only has a BA in communications. Under current standards set by the AMS he wouldn't be allowed to earn an AMS seal and be a TV weatherman due to a lack of a B.S. in a related field. Things are changing (very slowly) in the AMS which is long overdue IMO.

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I was completely joking about Roker's position on global warming. I have no idea what it is. I was just mocking the notion that we should care what one of his peers thinks.

If Al Roker came out and announced global warming skepticism, people would likely ignore it, if not openly mock him. But when one of his fellow TV weathermen announces his global warming skepticism, the right-wing noise machine like Newsbusters laughably proclaims it meaningful news.

Should we ask Ted Turner what he thinks about broadcast journalism news standards and use that as fodder to claim...well, anything? Hey, he dreamed up a network dedicated to 24-hour news!

But no, according to NewsBusters, ignoring what some TV weatherguy who's "thought about this" and "read some papers on it" is clear evidence the liberal media is 'silencing' all of the skeptics.

Right wing noise machine at it's finest:

1) Spend a long time complaining and crafting a narrative about the "liberal" media ignoring you and your point of view
2) Find someone irrelevant to espouse your point of view using meaningless arguments like "I've read about it" and "Trust me, I know"
3) Wait for the inevitable silence, as even your average hack journalist doesn't much give a crap what some retired TV weather personality has to say about global warming
4) Claim that silence and the lack-of-attention paid to said random irrelevant commentator is prima facie evidence that the narrative about liberal media bias silencing global warming skeptics is true
5) Rinse, repeat
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His

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Explain why I should care about his opinion.

Lots of scientists saying man made global warming is a very likely possibilty = irrational cultist conspiracy

One guy says it isnt = must be true.

Who is it who is being cultist and irrational?
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